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Soulowd 01-30-2014 01:25 PM

Getting mods Today! (RESULTS ARE IN!)
 
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Hey fellas just thought i would share that I dropped the 11' 5.0 off today to get JBA longtubes and offroad X pipe put on. I installed my JLT CAI last night and was very impressed. After today I should have the Dyno sheet to what im looking at after all the mods are installed...Any guesses on What the HP/TQ will be??? Will post the results hopefully tonight.

Dominic Toretto 01-30-2014 01:33 PM

Manual or auto?

-Alex

Soulowd 01-30-2014 02:02 PM

Manual

Dominic Toretto 01-30-2014 03:26 PM

389/375

-Alex

Bacadiesel 01-30-2014 03:54 PM

Cool, let us know the results. I will have the same mods in about 2 weeks.

Grandpa 01-30-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 62902)
389/375

-Alex

My car made that stock.

Dominic Toretto 01-30-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 62905)
My car made that stock.

I've seen a few do that after tune and O/R X. Also going to depend on the tune, dyno etc.

-Alex

46Tbird 01-30-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 62905)
My car made that stock.

So did mine. 390/371, stone stock

BERT 01-30-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 62908)
So did mine. 390/371, stone stock


Is this different than bone stock?

five.slow 01-30-2014 07:22 PM

419/386

five.slow 01-30-2014 07:23 PM

hang on what type of dyno? is mustang dyno 389/374

Soulowd 01-30-2014 09:11 PM

Alright results are in 388 rwhp! I was hoping for 380 or higher. Gearheads treated me right again. Im back on the bandwagon for those guys. Thanks Matt and Travis. Also, as far as a stock GT making 390+ to the rear wheels??? Id like to see that.

five.slow 01-30-2014 09:22 PM

ummmm.... i was at 417/39x with jlt, long tubes w/o cats and mufflers...aed tuned. dyno jet in 80 degree weater at about the same DA. but then again dynos are just a tool to use to get the car running good. your 388 might have beat my 417 on the track.

gearheads tuned my lightning an it ran pretty good, ran better with the amazon tune but not by much at all.

Soulowd 01-30-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by five.slow (Post 62924)
ummmm.... i was at 417/39x with jlt, long tubes w/o cats and mufflers...aed tuned. dyno jet in 80 degree weater at about the same DA. but then again dynos are just a tool to use to get the car running good. your 388 might have beat my 417 on the track.

gearheads tuned my lightning an it ran pretty good, ran better with the amazon tune but not by much at all.

Yeah Ive heard good things about AED Tunes. I havent done a dyno tune yet running low on funds after that pop...Trying to decide weather to use Gearheads or Truestreet in Mckinney. Also, I still have the stock mufflers not that it makes much of a difference HP wise but im thinking about going with Flowmaster Outlaws.

re-rx7 01-30-2014 09:59 PM

I hope that was at least a mustang dyno. Those numbers sound really low.

Soulowd 01-30-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 62928)
I hope that was at least a mustang dyno. Those numbers sound really low.

What do you mean a mustang dyno? The car is not tuned if thats what you mean...

Futwa 01-30-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulowd (Post 62929)
What do you mean a mustang dyno? The car is not tuned if thats what you mean...


Mustang is the brand of the Dyno, the other major dyno used is Dynojet. IIRC Dynojets read higher than the mustang brand given the same conditions, car, etc..

Dan12GT 01-30-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulowd (Post 62929)
What do you mean a mustang dyno? The car is not tuned if thats what you mean...

Wow not tuned? I would get it tuned ASAP one to improve the efficiency of the mods you have invested in and two to be safe! You'll prob be over 400whp with a tune.

Soulowd 01-30-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 62928)
I hope that was at least a mustang dyno. Those numbers sound really low.

it says dyno jet on the top of the page...However I dont see how those numbers are low...Reason being ford says 412 to the crank so minus 15% cause its a manual so typical results to the rear wheels would be somewhere between 350-360 on avg. JLT CAI say typical results 24-30rwhp and JBA LT's typical results are 17 rwhp based off of an article where they compared 7 of the top name brand Longtubes. Add all that up and I should be 391-407 with a tune...As soon as I get a tune im there or higher. Am i wrong here???

Soulowd 01-30-2014 10:37 PM

however i am a little concerned about the torque numbers...they do seem a bit lower than I expected...I just need to get it over to Truestreet in Mckinney and let them do their thing.

downtime! 01-30-2014 10:39 PM

Last time I checked, JLT doesn't make a CAI that will work without a tune. Without a tune, your car shouldn't even start, much less make a pull.

Nevermind, I see in your sig that you have an SCT tune in there. Canned tunes are OK, but a custom tune should yield you a bit more power

Just for reference, my car, with the same mods as yours, made 435/400 after Gearheads worked their tuning magic.

Soulowd 01-30-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 62938)
Last time I checked, JLT doesn't make a CAI that will work without a tune. Without a tune, your car shouldn't even start, much less make a pull.

Nevermind, I see in your sig that you have an SCT tune in there. Canned tunes are OK, but a custom tune should yield you a bit more power

Just for reference, my car, with the same mods as yours, made 435/400 after Gearheads worked their tuning magic.

Yeah I do have the basic sct tune but by tuned I meant actual dyno tune. I don't know I wasn't there when gearheads dyno'd the car so now I'm wondering what the hell

re-rx7 01-30-2014 10:56 PM

Also you can't sljust add what each part makes and total it up and say it should add 40whp. it doesn't work like that. Most cars with those mods make 415-430.

Soulowd 01-30-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 62940)
Also you can't sljust add what each part makes and total it up and say it should add 40whp. it doesn't work like that. Most cars with those mods make 415-430.

I understand that each car will make different results...but saying that you can't add up avg results to get a baseline is just not true. I am new to the coyote engine but I am by no means a newb to the mustang realm.

re-rx7 01-30-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulowd (Post 62941)
I understand that each car will make different results...but saying that you can't add up avg results to get a baseline is just not true. I am new to the coyote engine but I am by no means a newb to the mustang realm.

Ok....

downtime! 01-30-2014 11:35 PM

The CAI will be worth, at the most, 7-8hp, the gains come mainly from the tune. The long tubes were worth 15 on mine, and I regretted deleting the cats almost instantly. Since my car was brand new when we started, I had a two year inspection sticker, but after that ran out, it was a major PITA to get the car inspected. Even after replacing the cats, the car was nowhere near passing, so in the end, I did what I usually do in these situations, threw cash at it. The factory headers and cats are amazingly efficient, as is the factory air box. Bone stock, with just a tune from VMP, I ran 12 flats at 116. Mid 11's are obtainable through nothing more than a tune and suspension work, and looking back, I wish I would never had the long tubes installed.

DirtyD 01-31-2014 12:04 AM

You had issues getting inspected? I guess I will find out in July if I can pass inspection on mine or not.

Gearheads dyno I think reads really low compared to other dynos in the area.

five.slow 01-31-2014 12:09 AM

they could have their correcton factor off? did they give you a corrected or STD dyno graph? shaun was screwing with the dyno to show me how people can make a car look like it makes WAY more power by just messing with a few settings. my car made 727 with the paxton with a STD dyno but when he flipped it to a corrected graph it was like 760 or something like that.


oh and for the record if my car would start and run with a STOCK tune with ID1000s and paxton im sure the JLT would start too. it didnt idle for shit and it was ONLY idle no driving but it did start.

Soulowd 01-31-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 62945)
You had issues getting inspected? I guess I will find out in July if I can pass inspection on mine or not.

Gearheads dyno I think reads really low compared to other dynos in the area.

Maybe this is why they are only charging 40$ for dyno lol oh well I'll find out when I take it true street for dyno tune

re-rx7 01-31-2014 12:18 AM

Reading low has nothing to do with the price lol. There are diff types of dynos all read different.

Soulowd 01-31-2014 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 62948)
Reading low has nothing to do with the price lol. There are diff types of dynos all read different.

Just a joke

GTOphil 01-31-2014 12:27 AM

Who owns TrueStreet?

I have a friend who owns a performance shop in DFW but I don't know ANYTHING about his Ford guy.

What can y'all say about TS? I want a custom tune. (Bama right now)

Soulowd 01-31-2014 12:40 AM

GTO I have done some research and a lot of friends and members have said true street in McKinney are pretty damn good. I talk with Tim there and he said that he will stay after hours to help work us (dfw5.0's members) into their schedule. The typical 400$ is what they charge if you already have your own sct tuner.

DirtyD 01-31-2014 01:34 AM

My car dynoed 387/375 STD in stock form. So there is no doubt that Gearheads dyno reads low. And I don't know why it does, or why they keep it reading low.

toomnymods 01-31-2014 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulowd (Post 62952)
GTO I have done some research and a lot of friends and members have said true street in McKinney are pretty damn good. I talk with Tim there and he said that he will stay after hours to help work us (dfw5.0's members) into their schedule. The typical 400$ is what they charge if you already have your own sct tuner.

i'd much whether pay 250.00 for a aed tune that has your car actually on the street being ran in it's environment than a 400.00 dyno tune..

toomnymods 01-31-2014 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 62957)
My car dynoed 387/375 STD in stock form. So there is no doubt that Gearheads dyno reads low. And I don't know why it does, or why they keep it reading low.

before i had headers on mine i only read 398/377tq from gearheads..
here is my dynograph..
mods at the time where bama tune, jlt cai, and borla catback

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/v...psppxpvvbd.jpg

Soulowd 01-31-2014 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by toomnymods (Post 62958)
i'd much whether pay 250.00 for a aed tune that has your car actually on the street being ran in it's environment than a 400.00 dyno tune..

Good point.

Soulowd 01-31-2014 06:14 AM

I bet I could go to different dynos all over town and get different numbers at each one. They could be corrected numbers, manipulated, SAE, STD ect. But for the ppl saying they are 400+ stock or 440 with just a CAI I'm gonna have to pass on believing that.

DirtyD 01-31-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulowd (Post 62961)
I bet I could go to different dynos all over town and get different numbers at each one. They could be corrected numbers, manipulated, SAE, STD ect. But for the ppl saying they are 400+ stock or 440 with just a CAI I'm gonna have to pass on believing that.


But then again you also "aren't" making the power that you should, at least via dyno. This is why I finally understand why people don't need to get caught up in dyno numbers. For the mods you have, you should be 410-415 easy.

GTOphil 01-31-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by toomnymods (Post 62958)
i'd much whether pay 250.00 for a aed tune that has your car actually on the street being ran in it's environment than a 400.00 dyno tune..

I don't know anything about AED.


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