Barton shifter

[grabberblue50]

Barton Shifter 40% throw reduction was thinking about buying this shifter has anyone tried it yet? they cost alittle more than the steeda and hurst shifters but have more throw reduction hurst shifter has 20% and steeda is 27%.

[Midnight11]

its on sale at am right now too. been deciding between the barton or mgw

[BLK2012GT]

its on sale at am right now too. been deciding between the barton or mgw

Ok.......and?

[grabberblue50]

Mgw? And how much is it at american muscle?

[DirtyD]

Mgw. Best design and the adjustable throw is awesome!

[BLK2012GT]

MGW FTW!!!!!!!!!!!:challenge:

[Midnight11]

barton is 285 plus 6% off with the code

[grabberblue50]

Ok so who makes this mgw shifter and where can you buy it?

[grabberblue50]

so midnight was the wreck in your old mustang your fault?

[grabberblue50]

how much those coil overs cost ya?

[Midnight11]

Ok so who makes this mgw shifter and where can you buy it?
just google mgw or talk to jayman on here
so midnight was the wreck in your old mustang your fault?
no.
how much those coil overs cost ya?

got a good deal:peace:

[Phuck Phace]

I run the MGW also, very nice piece.

[Grandpa]

I'm most likely going to stay with the stock shifter.

[JDBishopArts]

I had a MGW on my old Cobra and loved it. I'll probably be going with MGW

[BLK2012GT]

I'm most likely going to stay with the stock shifter.

shocker:supergay:

[grabberblue50]

got a deal!!! you lucky dog

[grabberblue50]

390.00 OUCH for the mgw looks prety awsome though but only 30% shift reduction. so no one here has tried the bartons shifter.

[Grandpa]

shocker:supergay:

I dont see a problem with it. The stock one isnt bad at all. Ive seen lots of comments about aftermarket shifters rattling the interior quite abit in these cars. Rather spend the money elsewhere.

[grabberblue50]

ya i keep missing 2nd maybe i am just a shity driver lol. but the throw just seems to long to me i have always changed shifters in every mustang i have ever owned because of missing 2nd and after shifter replacement 2nd gear was no long a problem. i could just buy some headers instead but what good is power if i cant hit 2nd? lol

[Slow6]

I have the Barton and a buddy has the MGW and driving each car back to back we cant tell a difference in them but either are better than stock. Personally I liked the easy install of the Barton.

[DirtyD]

OP, it may be costly, but MGW designed that shifter from scratch, with in house R&D on a real car. Almost all the other shifters are just reworked and tweaked stock shifter assemblies.

Trust, the throw may be a little less than you want, but the MGW won't disappoint.

[Courtesy Flush]

Not sure on rules in linking other forums, but Sid on SVTP did a damn good write up on detail and effort MGW put into their shifter.

[Midnight11]

Not sure on rules in linking other forums, but Sid on SVTP did a damn good write up on detail and effort MGW put into their shifter.

go ahead

[Grandpa]

ya i keep missing 2nd maybe i am just a shity driver lol. but the throw just seems to long to me i have always changed shifters in every mustang i have ever owned because of missing 2nd and after shifter replacement 2nd gear was no long a problem. i could just buy some headers instead but what good is power if i cant hit 2nd? lol

Lol. I suspect you need some seat time and practice. Its second..straight down. Lol. Make sure you are sitting in a proper position and using the palm of your hand rather than your fingers. The seat should be close enough that when you straighten your leg its flat on the floor and an upright position.

[Midnight11]

dont listen to steve lol the stock shifter sucks 2nd is a bitch and so is 5th at wot

[Grandpa]

dont listen to steve lol the stock shifter sucks 2nd is a bitch and so is 5th at wot

Yeah, don't listen to me, I've only had 14 Mustangs. haha. This post proves how spoiled you are with these cars. Try driving with a stock Fox or SN95 shifter. These Coyote shifters are fine, you just can't drive. lmao!

[Midnight11]

Yeah, don't listen to me, I've only had 14 Mustangs. haha. This post proves how spoiled you are with these cars. Try driving with a stock Fox or SN95 shifter. These Coyote shifters are fine, you just can't drive. lmao!

but ive had more new 5.0s than you ;)

[Grandpa]

but ive had more new 5.0s than you ;)

Did you really just try to take credit for wrecking a Stang? lol.

[DirtyD]

I will agree with Nic and say that if you are running your car hard, 2nd does get lost in translation sometimes, even when you actually stare at the shifter and try to slam the stick straight down hard enough to shear the shaft...

However, it has pretty much been proven that it can happen from car to car. Many guys on SVTP that say they are still rocking the complete stock shifter with no lockout issues. I've seen 2nd lockout 3 times. First two were within the first 3000 miles, other was because I didn't exactly shift straight down (the shift gates are so damn tiny)

I believe Steve is allow to be heard on this issue though. I want to learn how to drive a column shift. :eek:

[Grandpa]

I will agree with Nic and say that if you are running your car hard, 2nd does get lost in translation sometimes, even when you actually stare at the shifter and try to slam the stick straight down hard enough to shear the shaft...

However, it has pretty much been proven that it can happen from car to car. Many guys on SVTP that say they are still rocking the complete stock shifter with no lockout issues. I've seen 2nd lockout 3 times. First two were within the first 3000 miles, other was because I didn't exactly shift straight down (the shift gates are so damn tiny)

I believe Steve is allow to be heard on this issue though. I want to learn how to drive a column shift. :eek:

You sunnuvabeech. I was rowing gears and going fast when you were still trying to figure out how to use the brake handle on your Big Wheel bike. lol.


I haven't had a single problem shifting my car at all. If I did, I would ditch the stock shifter with a quickness. We have a MGW in the Mach and it's a great piece of equiptment. I just don't feel the stock shifter in the Coyote warrants the very HIGH cost of the MGW. And as you said, this could vary from car to car. Thankfully I didn't get one of the junky ones. :D

Now, with some more miles on it, that could change I suppose. But not anytime soon.

[Midnight11]

Did you really just try to take credit for wrecking a Stang? lol.
no lol just saying :snoopfacepalm:
You sunnuvabeech. I was rowing gears and going fast when you were still trying to figure out how to use the brake handle on your Big Wheel bike. lol.


I haven't had a single problem shifting my car at all. If I did, I would ditch the stock shifter with a quickness. We have a MGW in the Mach and it's a great piece of equiptment. I just don't feel the stock shifter in the Coyote warrants the very HIGH cost of the MGW. And as you said, this could vary from car to car. Thankfully I didn't get one of the junky ones. :D

Now, with some more miles on it, that could change I suppose. But not anytime soon.

have you seen the stock bushing? maybe its bc you dont drive yours everyday

[DirtyD]

Why am I a sunnavabeech? I didn't call you out for anything.

But for the record, big wheels don't work in the country. Bigfoot power wheels and 230cc ATVs is what I grew up on. :D and my bike. Lol

Just wait until you put that booooooost to use. Then you will think otherwise about upgrading. :p

[blownaltered]

Lol. I suspect you need some seat time and practice. Its second..straight down. Lol. Make sure you are sitting in a proper position and using the palm of your hand rather than your fingers. The seat should be close enough that when you straighten your leg its flat on the floor and an upright position.

I'm with you Steve I can see third but second come on :wtf:
I hit 2nd with ease with my 24 year old stock transmission with 200 more horsepower then it's supposed take so I know you guys can do it.

[Grandpa]

no lol just saying :snoopfacepalm:


have you seen the stock bushing? maybe its bc you dont drive yours everyday

I drive my car almost everyday except bad weather days.

[downtime!]

11.6x's and still rocking the stock shifter. Just sayin.........

[pohnjarker]

i picked up a Hurst shifter for a great deal, i'll be putting that in within a couple weeks. love the way it looks and from what ive read, it'll perform! i dont think you can go wrong with either the barton or mgw, they are both fine pieces of equipment.

[Grandpa]

By the way, if you have never read Ranger's write on on driving technique on the Corvette forum, I HIGHLY suggest reading it. It will have an immediate effect on your technique and help you drop ET's like crazy.

[BLK2012GT]

Steve next time you are near my car come sit in it and row through the gears and you tell me your stock shifter is better then my MGW shifter.

[Grandpa]

Steve next time you are near my car come sit in it and row through the gears and you tell me your stock shifter is better then my MGW shifter.

I didn't say the stock shifter was better. I said that the stock shifter isn't that bad to warrant spending $300+ and having to listen to vibration/rattling noises from being a solid piece. I have an MGW shifter in the Mach, it's a great shifter, no question about it. The stock one in the Mach was garbage and needed to be replaced. I don't feel that way about the one in the 5.0.

[downtime!]

i picked up a Hurst shifter for a great deal, i'll be putting that in within a couple weeks. love the way it looks and from what ive read, it'll perform! i dont think you can go wrong with either the barton or mgw, they are both fine pieces of equipment.No more push down reverse lockout and an LED to let you know you're in reverse? I'll pass. Plus, I've never owned a Hurst that wasn't painfully noisy.

[Phuck Phace]

No more push down reverse lockout and an LED to let you know you're in reverse? I'll pass. Plus, I've never owned a Hurst that wasn't painfully noisy.

My Hurst in my 07 was perfect but for the reason you stated I didn't go with that in my 12, with my luck I would accidentally back into a cop after a beer or 2.

[BLK2012GT]

I didn't say the stock shifter was better. I said that the stock shifter isn't that bad to warrant spending $300+ and having to listen to vibration/rattling noises from being a solid piece. I have an MGW shifter in the Mach, it's a great shifter, no question about it. The stock one in the Mach was garbage and needed to be replaced. I don't feel that way about the one in the 5.0.

Hey I've had a lot of mustangs just like you. And I thought the stock shifter in my GT now was great. But then I read about how people loved the difference between the MGW and the stock. And once I did mine it was night and day difference and one of my favorite mod I've done to this car. You'll love it if you do switch shifters.

[OG Fox]

MGW FTMFW. seriously its a complete housing not just the top portion and it feels so good.

[downtime!]

My Hurst in my 07 was perfect but for the reason you stated I didn't go with that in my 12, with my luck I would accidentally back into a cop after a beer or 2.Even with the noise isolators in place in my '05, the Hurst was too noisy. The one in my '03 was the worst rattling POS I've ever had the displeasure of owning. MGW is the only aftermarket shifter I've ever installed that I was completely happy with. I've driven a new 5.0 with one and I can say it is a damn good shifter, the only reason I haven't replaced this one yet is that I don't have any issues with the stocker.

[pohnjarker]

My Hurst in my 07 was perfect but for the reason you stated I didn't go with that in my 12, with my luck I would accidentally back into a cop after a beer or 2.

you can tighen up the reverse lockout preload to make it much easier to not go into reverse accidently.
if i dont like it, im sure i can sell it what i paid for it so im not worried.

[Kronis]

Never missed a shift with the stock shifter. Shift fast enough to lose traction anyway, so any faster would be slower for traction reasons.

Meh... Maybe when I get wider tires. I'd rather spend the $300-$400 elsewhere, in my opinion.

[JDBishopArts]

Call me crazy but I think this might have something to do with people missing third...I missed it twice when I was test driving a car with this shifter...

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/11149005/mdmp_0808_05_z+2008_ford_mustang_gt+shift_knob.jpg

I've missed third ONCE with this shifter in 5 months. It comes on the 401a cars. I think it's the boss style knob. Shifter is no different than a regular.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f726/80345d1286577422-401a-shift-knob-what-kind-loctite-threads-img_7763a.jpg

That's one of my theories. The other is people suck at driving.

[Courtesy Flush]

Write up, install and videos on the MGW piece. Although its more expensive than its competitors out there, MGW really did their homework on making this shifter a work of art. Rumors floated around that Barton copied MGW on their shifter bracket design, not sure how much truth there is to that, but it did release thereafter MGW had their first shipment of shifters hit the public.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/front-page-news-143/792650-svtperformance-mgw-omnibus-mgw-mt-82-shifter-preview-install-review.html

[Midnight11]

Call me crazy but I think this might have something to do with people missing third...I missed it twice when I was test driving a car with this shifter...

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/11149005/mdmp_0808_05_z+2008_ford_mustang_gt+shift_knob.jpg

I've missed third ONCE with this shifter in 5 months. It comes on the 401a cars. I think it's the boss style knob. Shifter is no different than a regular.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f726/80345d1286577422-401a-shift-knob-what-kind-loctite-threads-img_7763a.jpg

That's one of my theories. The other is people suck at driving.
had both those shifters and actually prefer the first one...

[Courtesy Flush]

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http://forums.themustangsource.com/attachments/f726/80345d1286577422-401a-shift-knob-what-kind-loctite-threads-img_7763a.jpg



Burned my hand on this damn billet shifter knob all the time. Pretty much had the shift pattern scolded into my palm that year.

[Midnight11]

^yes that one is really hot or freezing depending on the weather...

[merlinmol]

I have the MGW in my car and it is probably the best shifter out there. Most of the shifter's wont replace everything that can potentially break and MGW does. They also don't shortcut it and leave the reverse lockout in but it is now steel instead of plastic. Although I am not sure if Barton does as well.

[Grandpa]

Burned my hand on this damn billet shifter knob all the time. Pretty much had the shift pattern scolded into my palm that year.

Lol, i dunno why but that struck me funny as hell. Probably wasnt all that funny to you though.

[46Tbird]

dont listen to steve lol the stock shifter sucks 2nd is a bitch and so is 5th at wot

sounds like you need some lessons

[03MachMe]

I have miss second a couple of times with this car, but that is because I was used to my short throw and short clutch I had in the Mach so I would release the clutch too soon or not push it in far enough. My fault not the shifter. Once I got used to the longer clutch and throw haven't missed a gear

[JDBishopArts]

^yes that one is really hot or freezing depending on the weather...

Lol I kept a microfiber towel over it during the summer.

[Midnight11]

sounds like you need some lessons

Rephrase 2nd is a bitch when it's cold...

[Grandpa]

Rephrase 2nd is a bitch when it's cold...

You're not suppose to beat on your car until all fluids are up to temp anyways knucklehead.. lol

[Midnight11]

I'm not beating on it...

[BLK2012GT]

I'm not beating on it...

You beat your meat.:fc5716bd:

[OG Fox]

You beat your meat.:fc5716bd:

i know i do!

[GunsUp]

I'm most likely going to stay with the stock shifter.

:gayfight::banana-mario::big_banana_Dance:

[grabberblue50]

thanks for all thje input guys. going with the mgw also i dont always miss 2nd run a 12.61 at ennis.

[Cabikejumper]

MGW on all 05+ GT's I hated mgw on 99-04 cars