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STROKD
11-15-2012, 07:33 PM
This should be a fun thread... Race setup is 35-150. His car is a Grabber Blue base manual car with stock 235 18s I think they are. Supposedly it makes 370rw with just catback.

I will be in my wife's Y2k FRC Vette. It has zo mufflers and ram air. On heavy 20"s it dynoed 315/324 SAE at True Street last week. STD was 323/332 I think, I just don't use STD because I've used sae all my life and STD correction confuses me.

So, any guesses how I will fare with the bad ass 5.0? My guess is me ahead by 4 lengths at 150...:smiley-face-popcorn

Midnight11
11-15-2012, 07:44 PM
I'm sure it has more than 370 in it bc I made more with just mufflers. What gears

DirtyD
11-15-2012, 08:04 PM
being he has the 18" rims on 235 tires, I would take a $100 stab at the fact he is a 3.31 car.

Assuming both of you are roughly 200 lb males, you have him at ~3450# to ~3820# (using online estimated curb weights). However, he has slightly less lb/HP, 10.28 to your 10.96.

I think he might pull on you a little towards the top, but if you can get the launch on him, you by a 1-2 cars.

Grandpa
11-15-2012, 08:15 PM
LOL @ Matt fishing for "go fast egoes". You must be bored. Sorry Matt, you're not going to be able to to stir the pot here. Laid back group. haha

5PointSlow
11-15-2012, 08:27 PM
Lol bench racing.

Grandpa
11-15-2012, 08:48 PM
Lol bench racing.

Let's nerd it out and get our racing calculators out. Matt has his Corvette tshirt, gloves, jacket and matching driving shoes. That should easily put him in the 10's alone. :win:

DirtyD
11-15-2012, 08:50 PM
I just answered a question. :(

STROKD
11-15-2012, 08:52 PM
LOL @ Matt fishing for "go fast egoes". You must be bored. Sorry Matt, you're not going to be able to to stir the pot here. Laid back group. haha

Lol, I was trying to get some honest reponses without too many fanboi's talkin smack. :)

DirtyD has real good estimates, except my car is lighter than he estimated by roughly 100 lbs.

I'm hopeful he hits an aero brink wall at 130ish, as the C5 pulls great at that speed.

STROKD
11-15-2012, 08:56 PM
Let's nerd it out and get our racing calculators out. Matt has his Corvette tshirt, gloves, jacket and matching driving shoes. That should easily put him in the 10's alone. :win:

I have 2 Vette shirts, but no gloves, jackets, or shoes :( Shit costs too much. Haha.

I'd say the car would run an honest 12.8@112 or so. The big advantage for me is from the trapspeed at 110 to 150 which is what the kid wants to run till...

DirtyD
11-15-2012, 09:23 PM
do you have a copy of the dyno graph?

jayman33
11-16-2012, 09:20 AM
Even roll racing you're forgetting an important mod, who's the better driver?

Phuck Phace
11-16-2012, 09:47 AM
Even roll racing you're forgetting an important mod, who's the better driver?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh snap!

JDBishopArts
11-16-2012, 09:57 AM
Whomever is the fastest will win this race...

STROKD
11-16-2012, 10:29 AM
do you have a copy of the dyno graph?

His or mine? No and no. Tim will email me one eventually.

STROKD
11-16-2012, 10:33 AM
Even roll racing you're forgetting an important mod, who's the better driver?

Well the kid is 21, and its his first performance car... I'm fairly confident Ive got the slight edge in experience.:High 5:

I already beat the guy by about 8 cars (his estimate, I couldnt see his lights) to 130 in my other FRC that made 380rw... and it was pulling hard at 130. figure that woulda been about 10-12 car lengths if we kept going...

DirtyD
11-16-2012, 03:15 PM
I have a copy of my dyno graph in SAE on here somewhere. You can look at that and see roughly where the power is at in these cars.

STROKD
11-16-2012, 10:16 PM
I have a copy of my dyno graph in SAE on here somewhere. You can look at that and see roughly where the power is at in these cars.

He put down 376/338 today. Will update when the race happens.

Grandpa
11-17-2012, 12:13 AM
He put down 376/338 today. Will update when the race happens.

It's kind of a no brainer here with you making about the same power and 800lbs lighter. lol.

DirtyD
11-17-2012, 12:56 AM
Steve, he is racing in the older FRC Vette that puts down 312/323.

STROKD
11-17-2012, 03:07 AM
ok well I just finished my humble pie... fuck yo' Coyotes dammit!

video to follow, long story short, with 165 lb passenger to him solo, we were locked till he said he shifted to fourth (I was ahead by a bumper on the second race). Both times he shifted to fourth I was about to go to fifth, and he ended up right with his rear bumper at my front wheel both races...

I put 5 gallons of gas in my hooptie thinking I was gonna tuck my tail and go home sadly, and we were talking about passenger weights mattering, this and that. So the generous 5.0 owner offered me a rematch, this time taking the passenger and me racing solo... we figured I might win by a car or so, but it didnt turn out that way... The only differences in the races is about a 300 lb swing...

I guess weight makes more difference in a slow car vs fast ones. hahaha. I won the last few races by way over 2 cars, the last one looks like I hit a 75 shot or something. The Vette was shaggin ass the last race, I think I won by 4, maybe 5 cars.

We are going to try to setup another time before either of us mod up with both of us racing solo... both of us hit all our gears on all races, and he hooked at all speeds. I spun a tad from the 35 roll but peddled it quickly enough to not lose much ground. All in all much fun was had, almost as much as racing fast cars.:pokeowned:

STROKD
11-17-2012, 03:09 AM
Steve, he is racing in the older FRC Vette that puts down 312/323.

Maybe Steve thought I put down 376? That would be bad ass, but no, that's not what happened... my other FRC made 381, and I raced this guy with it and drug him silly. That's why we wanted to set up this race was because the cars are so much more closely matched.:High 5:

5PointSlow
11-17-2012, 08:52 AM
You guys should've ran one more without the passenger in any car. In for the vid, sounds like some good racing!

STROKD
11-19-2012, 02:55 PM
Here are the vids... only difference is the passenger being in the losing car each race.

Both cars have mufflers, untuned.

Stang made 376/338 at stock weight, 230 lb driver

Vette made 315/324 at stock weight plus larger/wider wheels, 190 lb driver, 165 lb passenger in first 2 vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOHKHFEE1s4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1GnzJ7ljSE

2 of these didnt turn out on the phone, this one was the best. Only change was passenger in 5.0 instead of Vette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITrRwS9HFQ

All runs to 155-160.

Had fun, wife wants to mod now which was my whole point in racing.:jester:

DirtyD
11-19-2012, 03:13 PM
Not bad. Must have been some fun roads at those speeds as I could see the front fender gap on the '13 grow then shrink at the beginning of the video! Haha

STROKD
11-19-2012, 03:23 PM
Not bad. Must have been some fun roads at those speeds as I could see the front fender gap on the '13 grow then shrink at the beginning of the video! Haha

It was smooth sailing in the vette.:sleepy10: Thought I was going to pass out from boredom but it was still fun. That car doesnt get a lot of runs, so it was good to blow it out some. Wife doesnt take it over 3500 rpm to my knowledge. lol

Grandpa
11-19-2012, 03:41 PM
These lil Coyotes run good. :)

STROKD
11-19-2012, 06:12 PM
These lil Coyotes run good. :)

yep, almost as good as a stock LS1 designed by Government Motors way back in 1997.:roflsquared:

To the Coyote's defense, it obviously makes more power, just aerodynamics and weight kill it's advantage with a swiftness.

Grandpa
11-19-2012, 06:26 PM
yep, almost as good as a stock LS1 designed by Government Motors way back in 1997.:roflsquared:

To the Coyote's defense, it obviously makes more power, just aerodynamics and weight kill it's advantage with a swiftness.

The LS1 was an amazing motor, too bad it was built around a plastic pile of shit that fell apart after 10k miles and sounded like a gawd damn farm truck. There is more to a car than just making power. lol.

STROKD
11-19-2012, 07:09 PM
The LS1 was an amazing motor, too bad it was built around a plastic pile of shit that fell apart after 10k miles and sounded like a gawd damn farm truck. There is more to a car than just making power. lol.

I do hope you are referring to the Camaro...:emotions34:

My wife's car has 60k miles and the only problem it's had is the cheap ass headling motor, which I fixed myself not having any clue how to do so.

46Tbird
11-19-2012, 07:26 PM
Has anyone else noticed how slow most LS cars are at the track these days?

The same cars that in '02 were running 11s with slicks, lid, cutout, and converter seem to be running low-mid 13s now. I'm talking about F-bodies here; I haven't seen a C5 at the dragstrip in ages.

STROKD
11-19-2012, 08:28 PM
Has anyone else noticed how slow most LS cars are at the track these days?

The same cars that in '02 were running 11s with slicks, lid, cutout, and converter seem to be running low-mid 13s now. I'm talking about F-bodies here; I haven't seen a C5 at the dragstrip in ages.

People probably who own them, havent done ANY maintance to them in years... probably way down on power.

My C5 stock on runflats ran a blistering 13.1 @ 109, which is almost exactly what it probably ran in 1999. :shitsweak:

Zeek
12-01-2012, 07:18 PM
Howdy folks! Im the BG stang that Strokd ran. I have 3.55s btw

TrueStreetMotorSports.com
12-01-2012, 07:24 PM
Howdy folks! Im the BG stang that Strokd ran. I have 3.55s btw

Welcome Zeek!!!

Zeek
12-01-2012, 07:32 PM
Also i had a great time at Truestreet today. I think ill be going there for my tune sometime soon!