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[5PointSlow]

I have been working with Shaun getting my E85 tune squared away. Holy hell the car is an absolute monster. Should be finalizing the tune today and getting out to the track this evening. Previous best was [email protected] on 91 octane and street tires. I hope I get to make my first 10 sec pass tonight at over 130! :smiley-face-popcorn I am really impressed with the amount of power and timing E85 will take.

[Midnight11]

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haha thats awesome man cant wait to see the results

[Phuck Phace]

Wish I could run the corn but I daily mine and would be worried about getting stuck in BFE and not finding any E85 Stations.

[Grandpa]

Kevin (04sleeper) is the guy to talk to about E85. He knows more about it than just about anyone out there including several of these popular email tuners who frequently ask Kevin for help. lol.


There is several apps you can put on your phone to show you the locations of E85 stations around town to make it easy on you and plan fill ups.

E85 is definetely the way to go. :)

[BLK2012GT]

That's the way I'm going.

[03MachMe]

Wish I could run the corn but I daily mine and would be worried about getting stuck in BFE and not finding any E85 Stations.

same here. If it was more readily available I would be all over it.

[5PointSlow]

I probably wont daily on it, from my understanding that quick trips on E85 in cooler weather is not good since it allows fuel to get in to the oil pan and the short trips dont allow the motor to get hot enough to evap it off.

[Grandpa]

I texted Kevin to chime in here to give some E85 info. :)

[Slow6]

I love running E85 through my car. I cant wait to get it back and finish the motor break in so we can turn up the boost on E85 and lay down some power. I ran E85 daily for months and never had any issues. I was still getting around 18mpg on the highway also and that was with 550rwhp

[BLK2012GT]

I texted Kevin to chime in here to give some E85 info. :)

I already know everything I need to know. It makes more power, it safer, but you get less mpg but who cares about that. Oh and the fuel is cheaper. nuff said.

[Slow6]

Exactly. Cheaper and more power. I picked up 110rwhp by running E85 over 93 and running 2 psi more boost.

[04sleeper]

Wish I could run the corn but I daily mine and would be worried about getting stuck in BFE and not finding any E85 Stations.

same here. If it was more readily available I would be all over it.
Why don't you just get two tunes then? An E85 tune and a 93 Octane tune? Hell, you could get a 91 as well.

That is not a reason to not run it IMO.

After seeing cars over the years and the benefits associated with E85, there is no way I would run anything else. Especially on the new 5.0's!

[5PointSlow]

What about the E85 in the oil pan issue? how big of a deal is it and how much gets in there?

[Slow6]

True Street always did my oil changes and Toby never said there was anything he would worry about. That was at 5000 mile changes also.

[5PointSlow]

True Street always did my oil changes and Toby never said there was anything he would worry about. That was at 5000 mile changes also.

Im running amsoil AZO in mine and when I called they said when using E85 with that oil to follow the OEM change interval instead of their recommended 25k. I just got done logging my latest update. it really is a night and day difference in fuel for sure.

[Slow6]

I think we were using Mobil 1 full syn. what numbers are you running before and after the E85 change?

[5PointSlow]

last dyno was 533/473 std with the stock box with a best of 11.9@124. After adding the JLT/Tune, TiVCT updates and better track prep ive ran a best of [email protected] on 91. Im hoping to hit the track tonight. These times are on street tires and only suspension mods is roush springs. Im hoping to dyno on E85 on 1 Dec.

[04sleeper]

What about the E85 in the oil pan issue? how big of a deal is it and how much gets in there?
As of 2012 production, there are over 10 million Flex Fuel cars on the road. If it were a problem it would be wide spread chaos.

As per the Ford Manual. If your recommended oil change interval is 5000 miles for regular oil change, then it goes to 3000 miles on E85.

[Bearded Banger]

I'll never go back...Kevin showed me the light. I was once a 93 (90 in AK) sinner, but I have been cleansed of my sins through the liquid gold of E85.

[04sleeper]

I'll never go back...Kevin showed me the light. I was once a 93 (90 in AK) sinner, but I have been cleansed of my sins through the liquid gold of E85.
Get a new belt yet? Have a dyno day set up?

[Slow6]

I think the manual says 7500 mile oil changes now but I could be wrong. That brings us down to 5000 mile oil changes.

[Bearded Banger]

Got the belt. Ordered idlers and tensioner brace. I'm thinking I'll hold off for the DFW5.0s dyno day Dec. 1.

[Phuck Phace]

Why don't you just get two tunes then? An E85 tune and a 93 Octane tune? Hell, you could get a 91 as well.

I think i want to do that.
We need a sticky on what all is needed to run on E85. Sounds like it's too good not to do.

[Slow6]

Change the fuel lines and everything else should be good till you run out of fuel system.

[Grandpa]

I think i want to do that.
We need a sticky on what all is needed to run on E85. Sounds like it's too good not to do.

Just for the safety aspect of it alone, E85 is worth it. Add the amazing performance gains with it and it's a no brainer.

[5PointSlow]

Change the fuel lines and everything else should be good till you run out of fuel system.

on these cars we dont need to change the lines out unless your shooting for the moon. I am currently running ID1000 injectors and a Vortech non programable BAP. Shaun has my car running 24*s near the top of 4th. The car flat hauls ass!

[Slow6]

The lines will not hold up over time. The ethanol will eat the lining.

[BLK2012GT]

The lines will not hold up over time. The ethanol will eat the lining.

I talk to Truestreet and I don't have to upgrade my fuel lines. All I need is injectors and a tune.

[5PointSlow]

The lines will not hold up over time. The ethanol will eat the lining.

All current production vehicles are good to go tank and line wise due to the requirement to be able to run E10.

[Phuck Phace]

I talk to Truestreet and I don't have to upgrade my fuel lines. All I need is injectors and a tune.

What Injectors did you get?

[BLK2012GT]

What Injectors did you get?

I believes 44lbs

[04sleeper]

The lines will not hold up over time. The ethanol will eat the lining.
:snoopfacepalm:
All current production vehicles are good to go tank and line wise due to the requirement to be able to run E10.
Correct.

[Slow6]

All current production vehicles are good to go tank and line wise due to the requirement to be able to run E10.


Long term with E10 yes but not long term with E85 is what I was told. The first thing Ford Racing and the Ford engineering dept told me after working with them on the development of my car was to change the lines if I was running E85 long term. As a supplement race fuel for the track it wont hurt but if its sitting in the lines they told me it will damage them. I also know of alot of guys running E85 in stock lines with no issues. So this is a personal call to me. True Street made custom stainless braided lines for my car to work with the new fuel system so I never tested it. It also could have been Ford just covering their ass on working with me for developing my goals.

[5PointSlow]

What Injectors did you get?

If your going to upgrade I know Shaun recommends ID injectors for the quality and the ease of tuning. My car on ID1000s idles and drives just like stock.


6, I dont plan on running E85 long term as of now, I may drive on it for the next month but I am going to be driving to gulfport MS for school in Jan so I dont want to try and drive that far on E85. Ill keep the tuner with me in case i do want to hit the track up on the E. Come may my car is going to be parked and driven maybe once a week for a year.

[Slow6]

Thats my plan after this build finishes. Run low boost off the wastegate on 93 for one tune (the daily driver/ street tune) and then an E85 tune for mid boost and one more E85 tune for max boost. I was filling up twice a week running E85 all the time. It was crazy fun with the power but the whole car smelled like E85 in traffic so bad I had to roll down the windows.

[5PointSlow]

Thats my plan after this build finishes. Run low boost off the wastegate on 93 for one tune (the daily driver/ street tune) and then an E85 tune for mid boost and one more E85 tune for max boost. I was filling up twice a week running E85 all the time. It was crazy fun with the power but the whole car smelled like E85 in traffic so bad I had to roll down the windows.

so far i like the smell, that and I think it intimidates people when driving since it is pretty noticeable. couple more hours and im track bound! cant wait.

[5PointSlow]

Love the corn!!!! I picked up .4 in the quarter and 5mph!

[Grandpa]

Love the corn!!!! I picked up .4 in the quarter and 5mph!

Nice!