I really like the new MMD 551C wheels

[saunupe1911]

The new MMD 551C wheels from American Muscle look nice to me. They remind me of the Vossen 5 spoke wheels except the spokes aren't as thick...which I like. But they don't come in 20x9 or 20x9.5. American Muscle should be ashamed of continuously creating wheels with 8.5 inch widths! I might grab these if they create a 9 inch front wheel and put them on sale around Christmas :favorites37:

[DirtyD]

I agree with people continously offering a stagger setup with a 8.5" front wheel. It irritates me. Just give me a 9.5/10.5 stagger and I'll be happy. I don't want to feel like I'm turning on skates.

[saunupe1911]

And they wonder why good looking wheel designs don't sell even though they are at a good price point. It's because nobody wants those damn sizes. This platform as come and gone...but they still don't get it. We want as much traction as possible with these cars.

[DirtyD]

they give you plenty of rear rim for traction, but I want to be able to actually turn once I catch traction....not enhance the already present understeer and just mow through a corner.

[donutninja]

They tend to be really conservative on size and offset over at AM :/

Good looking wheels, though!!

[Lucky13]

Those things are clean. I like em.

[DirtyD]

They tend to be really conservative on size and offset over at AM :/

Good looking wheels, though!!
So does Latemodel.

[saunupe1911]

So does Latemodel.

Yep! Which makes me believe they might have the same manufacturer of their in house brands. It's probably a Chinese resource.

[JDMLOL]

It's probably a Chinese resource.


Most definitely. They could add an inch or inch and a half width to their wheels easily. I'm just wondering why they don't.

I had my gf (that is Chinese) email someone on alibaba, in Chinese just so I didn't have to converse with someone in broken English, because I was curious if I could have some wheels made. They can make whatever is requested as long as a picture and dimensions are provided of the style of wheel.

[DirtyD]

Most definitely. They could add an inch or inch and a half width to their wheels easily. I'm just wondering why they don't.

I had my gf (that is Chinese) email someone on alibaba, in Chinese just so I didn't have to converse with someone in broken English, because I was curious if I could have some wheels made. They can make whatever is requested as long as a picture and dimensions are provided of the style of wheel.


For what price? Lol

[JDMLOL]

For what price? Lol


Depends on the seller. We didn't really talk price, but their base prices are usually listed within their ad.

[garner]

Definitely nice, just wish they were made in 18s and cheaper. Don't see why the $100 premium over the other AM wheels other than being MMD "brand"

[JDMLOL]

Don't see why the $100 premium over the other AM wheels other than being MMD "brand"


Probably because they are the higher end knock off (vossen reps, right?) and they think they can get more.

I won't buy anymore wheels from them until they can offer 11 inch widths on all diameters for s197's.

[DirtyD]

I won't ever buy wheels unless they offer a square fitment in whatever by 10"

[JDMLOL]

I won't ever buy wheels unless they offer a square fitment in whatever by 10"


Could you not just buy all 10" wheels as singles? Or is the offset for the 10" wheels offered not good for the front at all?

[DirtyD]

Could you not just buy all 10" wheels as singles? Or is the offset for the 10" wheels offered not good for the front at all?
Most of the offsets offered on the 10" wheels are " " that much too deep to fit on the front. A 40-43 ET is preferred, and most of the rear 10" options are 45. I don't know if there will be issues or not, but would rather not find out the hard way.

[saunupe1911]

Most of the offsets offered on the 10" wheels are " " that much too deep to fit on the front. A 40-43 ET is preferred, and most of the rear 10" options are 45. I don't know if there will be issues or not, but would rather not find out the hard way.

Yeah a rear 10 inch should be 42 at minimum but 45 if you want to run a larger width 295 such as a Pilot Super Sport. I found this out the hard way too! I even responded to AM on Instagram. Dude talking about they run 8.5 so it can be a direct factory replacement so the buyer won't have to buy new tires. That's the dumbest business model I've ever heard off. I said Forgestars aren't selling out because they look so much better or have such high quality. Its because their offsets are simply perfect!

[JDMLOL]

Yeah a rear 10 inch should be 42 at minimum but 45 if you want to run a larger width 295 such as a Pilot Super Sport. I found this out the hard way too! I even responded to AM on Instagram. Dude talking about they run 8.5 so it can be a direct factory replacement so the buyer won't have to buy new tires. That's the dumbest business model I've ever heard off. I said Forgestars aren't selling out because they look so much better or have such high quality. Its because their offsets are simply perfect!


I guess they make more off the broke teenagers that just want the look without having to dump more money on tires than the real enthusiasts.

[Grandpa]

I guess they make more off the broke teenagers that just want the look without having to dump more money on tires than the real enthusiasts.

It's not just broke teenagers. There are several guys around here who bought these cars but can't really afford to mod them with anything other than cheap catalog stuff from places like American Muscle. That's why you see so many of these cars with the same mods done over and over again. Seems to be very little creativity happening now which is a shame.

[DirtyD]

It's not just broke teenagers. There are several guys around here who bought these cars but can't really afford to mod them with anything other than cheap catalog stuff from places like American Muscle. That's why you see so many of these cars with the same mods done over and over again. Seems to be very little creativity happening now which is a shame.
Exactly why I still rock the Brembo wheels. LOL. The wheels I want I can't afford. I will go through another round of tires before I can afford them still.

Don't get me wrong, it's cool that kids much younger than I can afford to get these cars in the first place, but they don't have an idea about what it truly costs to keep them yet. And that's why so many end up for sale. They can't afford decent tires, but they still complain about traction....they simply buy the biggest drop spring they can find, and blow the factory struts, and complain about the horrible ride. Bullocks.

[Dominic Toretto]

I like my $600 wheels until I can afford the $4,400 wheels I want. And I actually legitimately like the wheels I have. They have their place and it works that they were cheap. I also buy clothes from Old Navy. I'm poor :(

-Alex

[saunupe1911]

I like my $600 wheels until I can afford the $4,400 wheels I want. And I actually legitimately like the wheels I have. They have their place and it works that they were cheap. I also buy clothes from Old Navy. I'm poor :(

-Alex

I can never see myself paying over $400 per wheel unless I become filthy rich. Heck I cringe at $250 per wheel. But I will take the best tire that I can afford without hesitation.

[JDMLOL]

To be totally honest, unless the wheel is forged, you're paying for a brand name if you're paying 300+ for a wheel. Unless the wheel costs about 1000 or more dollars you're likely getting a cast wheel or a wheel that is not 100% forged. I personally love how Forgestar for example uses some "rotary" forging process but the wheels don't weigh much less than a low pressure cast wheel costing less than half the price. I don't need a set of wheels and tires that cost a quarter or a third of the total price of my car. I could understand it on a nice 911 or an Italian car, but not a run of the mill mustang. When I get some extra cash, I'll be content with a nice set of darkstars or a set of light Enkies.

[Dominic Toretto]

My dream.

http://www.forgeline.com/products/performance-series-step-lip/ga3-17-18-19-20.html

-Alex

[donutninja]

it really all depends on what you want out of the wheels. I mean, a good set of lightweight Enkei's is pretty affordable, I think.

I just don't get why AM (and other visual driven sites) can't offer decent offsets. I know backspacing has a lot to do with sizing as well. Obviously they go after a certain demographic and it works well for them. I've gotten a few things from AM when they were on sale but most of my purchasing has been done through Hypermotive. I have done and plan on doing most of my visual mods myself so they'll be exactly what I want and won't cost an arm and a leg.

[JDMLOL]

it really all depends on what you want out of the wheels. I mean, a good set of lightweight Enkei's is pretty affordable, I think.



They are, but my student loans make my disposable income limited at the moment until I start making more $$$.