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re-rx7
04-29-2014, 04:17 PM
I think its bullshit. What is said in private should not be held accountable. Everyone has a Opinion or beliefs about everything. SLippery slope for sure.

rlhay2
04-29-2014, 04:27 PM
The NBA owners are a UNION!
As such, they can dictate moral standards to their members. The populace does not have to agree with this and being a member of this union is a choice that Sterling did not have to make.

BERT
04-29-2014, 06:15 PM
He should've been pushed out years ago but nobody cared cause the Clippers sucked donkey balls for like 30yrs. Everyone knows what kind of shit owner/person he is, it's not secret.

I don't disagree with the lifetime ban. Hell, he's 81, so that'll be like a 5yr ban max

Crimson600+HP
04-29-2014, 07:41 PM
I think the ban from the NBA and fine is great. No need for that in the NBA.

Good luck getting him to relinquish ownership though. I don't care about the by laws, this will be in litigation for a while. I know if I owned a business and someone else told me I have to sell it without a profit I would fight it as long as possible.

Right decision, but now the NBA will have to wait this guy out I believe.

JDMLOL
04-29-2014, 08:13 PM
With the way technology is these days, NOTHING is private, especially if you're a high profile person. This type of thing is becoming more and more common. Grabbing a quick video and throwing it on YouTube or a sound clip is too easy with modern tech. Besides, there's no reason for for that racist shit. It's not 1960 anymore.

garner
04-29-2014, 08:31 PM
It's stupid. Everybody has said a few racist things in their life. It's just getting blown out of proportion because of his high social standing, and the NBA wants to try to prove a point to the minorities

rlhay2
04-29-2014, 08:52 PM
Everybody has said a few racist things in their life.

Whom else has lost $25 million dollar lawsuit because he did not want to rent his apartments to minorities. He has an established 30+ year history of bigotry.

Crimson600+HP
04-29-2014, 08:54 PM
This guy has a history of this. I think it is the right move, especially with Silver just being into the job as NBA Commisioner for like three weeks. Better starting off as a hardass then being a weak guy like David Stern. Sterling is getting what he deserved, but I find it legally hard for the league to force someone to sell their team. We all know they will make this owner vote public too, thus forcing the hand of every owner to vote in favor of kicking Sterling. Rigging a vote, no matter how justified the result will be, is still a violation of due process in my opinion.

re-rx7
04-29-2014, 10:14 PM
WHo gives a fuck? The guy said it in the privacy of his own home. Last time i checked we ahve a right to freedom of speech and opinion. This is bullshit. Just because he doesnt like black people? Shit, what about the shit black people say about white people. Its hypocricy at its finest.

I could care less if the guy likes black people or sweet tea. HE isnt discriminating against them. Hell he pays them accordingly and even hired a black coach.

Dominic Toretto
04-29-2014, 11:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwCPXC_Pj0

-Alex

Dominic Toretto
04-29-2014, 11:39 PM
I agree with Brandon. The man should be allowed to be himself at the bare minimum in his fucking home. I man damn, does he need to put on a costume all day, he can't take it off at home!? I would love to be 100% Alex at all times of the day but, I can't go to work in sweat pants and be on spankwire all day, so I go home for that.

I don't follow sports but, I would think if the man had been an owner for this long, then he hasn't screwed up his job too much. His athletes majority, if not all Black, he has been paying, he's hired Black people. His job is a business and apparently he's done a good enough job to not let his being racist, effect his actual work performance. And in doing so, provided for Black people.

Now that he is banned from the NBA, I'm sure he will find something relaxing to do with his billions, so really he is OK no matter what. I don't agree that he should have been fired but, due to sponsors no longer providing money, I can see why he was banned. When you're the direct cause of money being lost from the company, especially in such great amounts... yeah you're probably going to get fired.

The only person that I have a problem with is the effing sideline that sent the phone conversation. Really ho? You're getting cut off from stuff you gained by being a ho and now you want retribution because, YOU were a slut and got cars, etc. But this is the world we live in.

Freedom of speech only exists if you assume that freedom has consequences. If you think you can say whatever you want at any given time, then that mistake is on you.

BTW for those that haven't met me, I am Black and I honestly don't care if Sterling is racist. I'm sure I work with racists, Black, White, Latino and otherwise but hell, if we can all come to work to make sure we all get paid go put on your cloak and hood in your spare time.

-Alex

re-rx7
04-29-2014, 11:49 PM
I agree with Brandon. The man should be allowed to be himself at the bare minimum in his fucking home. I man damn, does he need to put on a costume all day, he can't take it off at home!? I would love to be 100% Alex at all times of the day but, I can't go to work in sweat pants and be on spankwire all day, so I go home for that.

I don't follow sports but, I would think if the man had been an owner for this long, then he hasn't screwed up his job too much. His athletes majority, if not all Black, he has been paying, he's hired Black people. His job is a business and apparently he's done a good enough job to not let his being racist, effect his actual work performance. And in doing so, provided for Black people.

Now that he is banned from the NBA, I'm sure he will find something relaxing to do with his billions, so really he is OK no matter what. I don't agree that he should have been fired but, due to sponsors no longer providing money, I can see why he was banned. When you're the direct cause of money being lost from the company, especially in such great amounts... yeah you're probably going to get fired.

The only person that I have a problem with is the effing sideline that sent the phone conversation. Really ho? You're getting cut off from stuff you gained by being a ho and now you want retribution because, YOU were a slut and got cars, etc. But this is the world we live in.

Freedom of speech only exists if you assume that freedom has consequences. If you think you can say whatever you want at any given time, then that mistake is on you.

BTW for those that haven't met me, I am Black and I honestly don't care if Sterling is racist. I'm sure I work with racists, Black, White, Latino and otherwise but hell, if we can all come to work to make sure we all get paid go put on your cloak and hood in your spare time.

-Alex

Very well put sir.:waytogo:

Crimson600+HP
04-30-2014, 10:31 AM
I'm not saying throwing him in jail or something for being a racist, that is completely fine with his 2nd Ammendment rights. But I do think the NBA has the right to dissasociate themsevles (ban for life from attending, not necessarily forcing him to sell something he owns) from an owner who has racist views to a minority which happens to make up the larger portion of the NBA. The NBA is a money making business and when something threatens that profit (IE players not playing in games like they were going to according to the players association), you cut your ties. Shit, that is why all the sponsors of the Clippers cut loose until Sterling was removed.

He has the right to be racist in his house or where ever, just somewhere else and not this club. If I was running the NBA, I would have done the same. But I would also be prepared for years of litigation which would ultimately favor Sterling making a huge profit in the end. Unless he croaks.

This will be an interesting story to read once it is fully resolved though.

Grandpa
04-30-2014, 11:30 AM
I agree with Brandon. The man should be allowed to be himself at the bare minimum in his fucking home. I man damn, does he need to put on a costume all day, he can't take it off at home!? I would love to be 100% Alex at all times of the day but, I can't go to work in sweat pants and be on spankwire all day, so I go home for that.

I don't follow sports but, I would think if the man had been an owner for this long, then he hasn't screwed up his job too much. His athletes majority, if not all Black, he has been paying, he's hired Black people. His job is a business and apparently he's done a good enough job to not let his being racist, effect his actual work performance. And in doing so, provided for Black people.

Now that he is banned from the NBA, I'm sure he will find something relaxing to do with his billions, so really he is OK no matter what. I don't agree that he should have been fired but, due to sponsors no longer providing money, I can see why he was banned. When you're the direct cause of money being lost from the company, especially in such great amounts... yeah you're probably going to get fired.

The only person that I have a problem with is the effing sideline that sent the phone conversation. Really ho? You're getting cut off from stuff you gained by being a ho and now you want retribution because, YOU were a slut and got cars, etc. But this is the world we live in.

Freedom of speech only exists if you assume that freedom has consequences. If you think you can say whatever you want at any given time, then that mistake is on you.

BTW for those that haven't met me, I am Black and I honestly don't care if Sterling is racist. I'm sure I work with racists, Black, White, Latino and otherwise but hell, if we can all come to work to make sure we all get paid go put on your cloak and hood in your spare time.

-Alex

Best post you have ever made. Very well said.


While what the man said is reprehensible, he still has the right to say/think the way he does. It doesn't make him right, just because he said/thought it.

If it wasn't for social media and the media in general, this wouldn't even be such a big issue. What some old man said doesn't affect me or anyone here at all. Old white guys of his age saying crazy shit isn't exactly something new here. If he wasn't in a high profile position no one would give two shits what this clown said. But the general public is quick to tear down anyone who is successful regardless of what their faults are, its just a fault to go after.

Frankly, if the man is a racist, he isn't a very good one. He's employs a great many people who are of non-white back ground and the majority of the Clippers are black.

At the end of all this, it won't change anything about the man. He will still think and feel the same way he already does.

BERT
04-30-2014, 11:33 AM
I think the funny thing is that his gf is half black and yet he didn't want her bringing black guys to the games lol

Grandpa
04-30-2014, 11:36 AM
I think the funny thing is that his gf is half black and yet he didn't want her bringing black guys to the games lol

Because an old white guy saying something crazy is something so new. lol

BERT
04-30-2014, 11:41 AM
I don't follow sports but, I would think if the man had been an owner for this long, then he hasn't screwed up his job too much. His athletes majority, if not all Black, he has been paying, he's hired Black people. His job is a business and apparently he's done a good enough job to not let his being racist, effect his actual work performance. And in doing so, provided for Black people.

-Alex



But he hasn't been doing a good job. The Clippers have been total shit and the laughing stock of the NBA for all but the last 5yrs he has owned the team. He doesn't care about winning, only making money. That alone doesn't make him a good owner

Klownz
04-30-2014, 11:43 AM
I think he should just pay for our mods and we will forgive him and move on.

Grandpa
04-30-2014, 11:53 AM
But he hasn't been doing a good job. The Clippers have been total shit and the laughing stock of the NBA for all but the last 5yrs he has owned the team. He doesn't care about winning, only making money. That alone doesn't make him a good owner

The Clippers have always been the redheaded stepchild of L.A. The Lakers are where it's at!

Sterling takes the Jerry Jones approach to owning a team. Keep the team high profile and make money off of all the merchandise and TV rights. They talk about winning because that is what fans want to hear, but they really don't give a shit.

DirtyD
04-30-2014, 12:38 PM
The Clippers have always been the redheaded stepchild of L.A. The Lakers are where it's at!

Sterling takes the Jerry Jones approach to owning a team. Keep the team high profile and make money off of all the merchandise and TV rights. They talk about winning because that is what fans want to hear, but they really don't give a shit.
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blownaltered
04-30-2014, 03:50 PM
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blownaltered
04-30-2014, 03:56 PM
About the racist old man, I find it funny that people are so worked up about this. I have been called more racist names by black people then you could imagine. I had a guy try to get 10 bucks worth of gas from me one day and because I didn't I was a racist piece of shit. Well that's what he said I was and then took off when my dumb ass started chasing him. Also how in the fuck is something that was illegally recorded in his own home being used to force him to sell his team and being banned from the sport. I can't wait to see what happens in court because this rich old fucker isn't going to give up easily.

Here is the real question. If this would have been a black player or owner talking about a white person would there be any suspension?

Dominic Toretto
04-30-2014, 04:37 PM
About the racist old man, I find it funny that people are so worked up about this. I have been called more racist names by black people then you could imagine. I had a guy try to get 10 bucks worth of gas from me one day and because I didn't I was a racist piece of shit. Well that's what he said I was and then took off when my dumb ass started chasing him. Also how in the fuck is something that was illegally recorded in his own home being used to force him to sell his team and being banned from the sport. I can't wait to see what happens in court because this rich old fucker isn't going to give up easily.

Here is the real question. If this would have been a black player or owner talking about a white person would there be any suspension?

Honestly from what I have seen, Black people exercise more racism openly than any other demographic. Black people are actually racists towards other Black people. I honestly can't stand the majority of my race. Hell many of them call me White for all sorts of reasons from the way I dress, to the way I speak. That's a whole 'nother thread though.

I agree completely that his personal phone conversation should be kept private. That cuntbag and the media making that public should be sued. I did get some insight though that once the NBA started losing major sponsors, from that standpoint it does make sense to fire him. Losing sponsors means, losing money ALL around.

-Alex

Grandpa
04-30-2014, 05:03 PM
About the racist old man, I find it funny that people are so worked up about this. I have been called more racist names by black people then you could imagine. I had a guy try to get 10 bucks worth of gas from me one day and because I didn't I was a racist piece of shit. Well that's what he said I was and then took off when my dumb ass started chasing him. Also how in the fuck is something that was illegally recorded in his own home being used to force him to sell his team and being banned from the sport. I can't wait to see what happens in court because this rich old fucker isn't going to give up easily.

Here is the real question. If this would have been a black player or owner talking about a white person would there be any suspension?


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BERT
04-30-2014, 05:57 PM
About the racist old man, I find it funny that people are so worked up about this. I have been called more racist names by black people then you could imagine. I had a guy try to get 10 bucks worth of gas from me one day and because I didn't I was a racist piece of shit. Well that's what he said I was and then took off when my dumb ass started chasing him. Also how in the fuck is something that was illegally recorded in his own home being used to force him to sell his team and being banned from the sport. I can't wait to see what happens in court because this rich old fucker isn't going to give up easily.

Here is the real question. If this would have been a black player or owner talking about a white person would there be any suspension?



Him getting banned had nothing to do with legal or illegal

Grandpa
04-30-2014, 06:12 PM
Legal or illegal has nothing to do with it. The NBA cares about its image and keeping the money train rolling. There is no way they were going to tolerate an owner accused of being a racist and the NBA doing nothing appearing to condone it. Especially, when the majority of players are black who fill the seats and sell merchandise every night.

blownaltered
04-30-2014, 06:34 PM
Legal or illegal has nothing to do with it. The NBA cares about its image and keeping the money train rolling. There is no way they were going to tolerate an owner accused of being a racist and the NBA doing nothing appearing to condone it. Especially, when the majority of players are black who fill the seats and sell merchandise every night.

I don't think I have heard the entire recording but from what I have heard so far wasn't as bad as everybody is making it out to be. I haven't heard the "N" word or anything like that. Seems like he just doesn't want his girlfriend hanging out with black people. Again I haven't heard the entire thing.

mavfan37
04-30-2014, 08:22 PM
It's reverse ethnocentrism. Stupid people in the world.

Crimson600+HP
04-30-2014, 10:16 PM
I was the right move for a new commissioner though. In one decision, he has won over all the players in the NBA...something David Stern also wasn't great at. Needless to say, Silver made the right business decision in order to make his employees happy and keep the money coming in.

Go Spurs Go

saunupe1911
05-01-2014, 10:02 AM
Banned for life...the man is 80 something yrs old. He only has a few yrs left

2.5 mill fine to a 1.9 billionaire with over 100 mill in liquid cash is like one of us losing $200. We'll be mad, but oh well life goes on.

The man has accomplished everything he has sought to do. He probably got that snitching mistress making a breakfast sandwich butt-naked right now.

What he has said and done over the yrs to minorities is absolutely horrible, but I really do hate that his privacy was invaded like that. Rich, famous people need to invoke the Derek Jeter rule at all times...no exceptions.

That's my 2 cents

blownaltered
05-01-2014, 12:54 PM
We will see what happens in court. If anybody thinks this old fucker isn't going to fight this, they are dead wrong. He has more money than he can ever spend and doesn't like being told what to do. This could drag out for a while before the team ever gets sold.

So to the people that are ok with a private conversation that was recorded illegally being used to force him to sell his team. Are you ok with people losing their jobs because of things they say on facebook?

Grandpa
05-01-2014, 01:11 PM
We will see what happens in court. If anybody thinks this old fucker isn't going to fight this, they are dead wrong. He has more money than he can ever spend and doesn't like being told what to do. This could drag out for a while before the team ever gets sold.

So to the people that are ok with a private conversation that was recorded illegally being used to force him to sell his team. Are you ok with people losing their jobs because of things they say on facebook?

Yeah, he definitely has the money to make this a long drawn out process.

As for the comments on FB thing, that is already happening. Many places are including FB as part of their background checks now along with other social media.

blownaltered
05-01-2014, 01:31 PM
Yeah, he definitely has the money to make this a long drawn out process.

As for the comments on FB thing, that is already happening. Many places are including FB as part of their background checks now along with other social media.

I know it has that was my point. Now at least with facebook you are putting that out there on your own. Not something that was recorded without your knowledge.

03MachMe
05-01-2014, 01:33 PM
Some jobs/positions you have to be mindful of what you say at all times or at least trust those you say it to. He was a bad judge of character and said the wrong thing to someone who had something to gain by it going public. If I was to be recorded saying the same thing and it becomes public, no matter how it was obtained, I would lose my job, my license, and every arrest I have made would be called into question. There are just some positions out there that no matter what if something about you becomes public you will lose your job

Dominic Toretto
05-01-2014, 01:40 PM
So to the people that are ok with a private conversation that was recorded illegally being used to force him to sell his team. Are you ok with people losing their jobs because of things they say on facebook?

I am absolutely okay with that. Nothing is private on Facebook and people are aware of that before hand. In
my opinion people need to respect their own privacy and post less on Facebook.

-Alex

JDMLOL
05-01-2014, 01:54 PM
I am absolutely okay with that. Nothing is private on Facebook and people are aware of that before hand. In

my opinion people need to respect their own privacy and post less on Facebook.



-Alex


Exactly why I don't have Facebook. I don't care to read a bunch of bragging, complaining, or useless BS about other people's lives whom I don't even know or care about.

rlhay2
05-01-2014, 01:57 PM
So to the people that are ok with a private conversation that was recorded illegally being used to force him to sell his team.

#1 If you are rich, pick a better class of money grubbing whore.
#2 He knew that if he EVER brought negative attention upon his fellow NBA owners that they would vote him out. This was known and agreed to.

There are just some positions out there that no matter what if something about you becomes public you will lose your job

And sometimes they are position dependent. An employee and a CEO can have different punishments for the same offense.

BERT
05-01-2014, 05:28 PM
Sounds like Donnie is Sterling's grandson lol