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2014gt
03-21-2014, 11:49 PM
anyone heard of them are they any good?
was looking for a tune and have my mind set on aed, was just wondering if yall have heard of them

DirtyD
03-22-2014, 11:11 AM
CTP is another excellent choice. Crimson600 is a member here and has his prochargered 5.0 tune by him

BV600
03-22-2014, 11:55 AM
Good shop. I know my friends TT 5.0 is getting built/tuned by him right now. I will be getting tuned by him when my procharger is on. Also he has a On3 Boss that ran like 10.4-10.6 on 4.5psi

kdanner
03-22-2014, 07:46 PM
I like Jeff, even though he's slow. ;) Being that close I can't imagine why you wouldn't go there. He'll take care of you.

AED, well lots of hype on one forum where he pays to advertise. But real measurable results on track? Not so much. He sure has tuned lots of CJ intake cars in the last several months, none of which have run 10.anything.

Crimson600+HP
03-22-2014, 09:59 PM
Jeff is a perfectionist and does great work. I can't say enough positive things about his shop. I have a P1SC kit that he tuned to 575 RWHP. Right now I'm at the Texas Mile, running my daily driving tune. I crossed with a 166.4 MPH, which was right on stock 2014 GT500. Tomorrow I throw on his race tune and start taping off the vents, gaps, etc. in my pursuit of breaking 170+ MPH. All this while being completely reliable and I owe that to Jeff and CTP.

2014gt
03-24-2014, 01:44 PM
this is music to my ears fellas i like keeping my buisiness as close to home as possible, and one know what he would charge to dyno tune my car with 100 shot?

DirtyD
03-24-2014, 02:04 PM
I like Jeff, even though he's slow. ;) Being that close I can't imagine why you wouldn't go there. He'll take care of you.

AED, well lots of hype on one forum where he pays to advertise. But real measurable results on track? Not so much. He sure has tuned lots of CJ intake cars in the last several months, none of which have run 10.anything.
That's because of the the AED people that throw his name everyone end up racing only on the streets, and very seldomly on the tracks.

2014gt
03-24-2014, 08:55 PM
so i read 400 for a dyno tune n/a at ctp, is it really worth 200 more for a tune from ctp?

kdanner
03-24-2014, 09:05 PM
That's because of the the AED people that throw his name everyone end up racing only on the streets, and very seldomly on the tracks.

Yes, I fully understand that. Exactly why I say no measurable results, just hype. The cars he has done calibrations for at the TX mile have been poor performers as well such as TVS cars that couldn't get out of the 160s.

2014gt
03-24-2014, 09:14 PM
do you have personal experience with aed? i havent seen a whole lot bad about them, but ive heard a few negative things about all tuners except ctp, but i just found out about them

kdanner
03-24-2014, 10:09 PM
do you have personal experience with aed? i havent seen a whole lot bad about them, but ive heard a few negative things about all tuners except ctp, but i just found out about them

I do my own calibrations. Knowing what I know about doing that, it can be easy to tell when he lies about something, and I've seen it plenty. Don't let him fool you, even as recently as 2011 he had other calibrators flying in to do the work in his shop, which you can easily find proof of via google. But even all that aside, like I was saying above, that camp talks a lot, but when it comes time to produce numbers anywhere other than a dyno, it just doesn't seem to happen. There are plenty of others out there doing calibrations that actually have good on track results from customer cars on a regular basis. Jeff is one of those guys.

Jeff I know personally. Andy that works for Jeff, I know personally. Other personal friends that have had Jeff do calibrations were happy with what they got. I can't imagine why you'd not want to take advantage of having someone local, but if you want someone in another part of the country I can refer you to plenty of other guys that can take care of you also. The guys who are good at this don't have to whore themselves out on forums, they already get all the work they want without having to do that.

Crimson600+HP
03-24-2014, 10:18 PM
I have nothing against AED. I actually was going to go through Shaun for my procharger kit, but he wouldn't touch centri's unless you were running ID1000's or better. Probably getting a lot of business now that more and more people are starting to swear by their tunes, but that wasn't the type of answer I was expecting.

For reference, my car on the daily tune (tuned for 91 OCT) ran 166.4 MPH this weekend at the TX Mile (my first mile event, no aero work done). That put me slightly ahead of a stock 2014 GT500 that ran the same day, also ahead of a couple C6 Grandsport Vette's. I put Jeff's race tune in for the morning but the day got rained out. With the cool temps and 20+ MPH tailwinds, I am sure I would have got that 170+ which was my goal. Well that's racing.

five.slow
03-26-2014, 12:29 PM
here we go again with the AED bash. dude if you don't like him just say you don't like him and drop it. my car ran like a raped ape, did i get on the track? no im in the middle of the fucking desert so that wasn't an option. the "hype" is about his customer service and how well the cars drive. i don't recall anyone talking about times... I did call out some ass hat from OKC that was running his mouth about how real street outlaws was and he didnt show.

OP beware of the internet. I hear bad and good about every single shop mentioned on the internet. hennessey has some good followers but we all know back in the day they ripped people off... people here in California seem to love GTR high performance but my experience wasn't all that great. IF anyone remembers arlington motorsports ran by a dude named keith you know how that went. ripped people off and went under. however his shop was across from my fathers auto body shop and was super cool with us and even gave me parts to build my first car (86 z28). probably stolen but i didn't know, he was cool. get my drift? go talk to some shops locally and see what they have going on.

*** disclaimer: no im not a "nut-swingger" im just a happy customer, and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion ***

5PointSlow
03-26-2014, 05:09 PM
here we go again with the AED bash. dude if you don't like him just say you don't like him and drop it. my car ran like a raped ape, did i get on the track? no im in the middle of the fucking desert so that wasn't an option. the "hype" is about his customer service and how well the cars drive. i don't recall anyone talking about times... I did call out some ass hat from OKC that was running his mouth about how real street outlaws was and he didnt show.

OP beware of the internet. I hear bad and good about every single shop mentioned on the internet. hennessey has some good followers but we all know back in the day they ripped people off... people here in California seem to love GTR high performance but my experience wasn't all that great. IF anyone remembers arlington motorsports ran by a dude named keith you know how that went. ripped people off and went under. however his shop was across from my fathers auto body shop and was super cool with us and even gave me parts to build my first car (86 z28). probably stolen but i didn't know, he was cool. get my drift? go talk to some shops locally and see what they have going on.

*** disclaimer: no im not a "nut-swingger" im just a happy customer, and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion ***


Who was the asshat from OKC?

It's not really unknown about the danner/AED dislike. Go with whoever you want to tune your car. I am perfectly happy with my AED tune and my car runs pretty hard on 91/93 and E85. As five.slow says, Shaun's CS is top notch and his tunes are good. Call it hype, but when you have a large group of satisfied customers your going to see that. If kris sold tunes (which he said before he is not interested in that) he would probably get a similar following if he was willing to provide the same level of CS Shaun does.

five.slow
03-26-2014, 06:12 PM
Who was the asshat from OKC?

It's not really unknown about the danner/AED dislike. Go with whoever you want to tune your car. I am perfectly happy with my AED tune and my car runs pretty hard on 91/93 and E85. As five.slow says, Shaun's CS is top notch and his tunes are good. Call it hype, but when you have a large group of satisfied customers your going to see that. If kris sold tunes (which he said before he is not interested in that) he would probably get a similar following if he was willing to provide the same level of CS Shaun does.

dont even remember his name or screen name. if i knew it id ask you to go stomp his cars ass.

if kris would just stop talking shit it would make him look better. im sure he can tune the hell out of car but no reason to slander others in the process.

kdanner
03-27-2014, 01:07 AM
my car ran like a raped ape, did i get on the track? no im in the middle of the fucking desert so that wasn't an option.

Which effectively translates to: "the car was fast, I have no measurable way to show it, but that's what my butt-o-meter says." Yes you're entitled to your opinion, but when you say the car is fast, someone like me is going to eventually come along and ask you how fast, which you can't answer. So it's completely subjective, not objective.



if kris would just stop talking shit it would make him look better.

I have no desire to "look better". I'm not in this business. What I will do is call people out when they can't back up their claims. Evidently some would prefer to just let them continue to spew their bullshit and never question it.

five.slow
03-27-2014, 12:09 PM
I can call call bullshit on your stuff just as easy. difference is you look like a fucking dick. I bet you are the guy when a friend says "dude I got this bad ass garage door opener, its 5hp" you would come back with "bullshit it does not have 5hp, i made my own that is better". you will argue with anyone thinking you are better when in reality you are average. think you are the only non shop guy going fast? hell you might be the slowest non shop guy... the internet isnt everything bud. you must be the coolest dude ever to hang out with. no all of us are out to set world records and if you were so damn bad ass with your car why are you not in racing magazines or touring the country like JPC or beefcake (just naming a few for reference)? I will let you claim weekend warrior, happy?

DirtyD
03-27-2014, 01:53 PM
I can call call bullshit on your stuff just as easy. difference is you look like a fucking dick. I bet you are the guy when a friend says "dude I got this bad ass garage door opener, its 5hp" you would come back with "bullshit it does not have 5hp, i made my own that is better". you will argue with anyone thinking you are better when in reality you are average. think you are the only non shop guy going fast? hell you might be the slowest non shop guy... the internet isnt everything bud. you must be the coolest dude ever to hang out with. no all of us are out to set world records and if you were so damn bad ass with your car why are you not in racing magazines or touring the country like JPC or beefcake (just naming a few for reference)? I will let you claim weekend warrior, happy?
Simple. He doesn't do it for glory. He does it as a challenge and does it to satisfy himself. Plenty of people here have seen his car in action, and it's impressive.

And no offense, but the only one looking like a dick here is you.

Crimson600+HP
03-27-2014, 05:22 PM
Kris's car and tuning methods are proven on the track and has evidence. That speaks volumes in my book. His car was NA and trapped 180 @ the mile. My blown car couldn't get to the 170s.

In the car world, evidence and real world results matter. I have nothing against AED, but there are other options out there which people should consider before blindly following the masses.

five.slow
03-27-2014, 06:14 PM
Simple. He doesn't do it for glory. He does it as a challenge and does it to satisfy himself. Plenty of people here have seen his car in action, and it's impressive.

And no offense, but the only one looking like a dick here is you.

so if i talk shit about a shop with no read negative reputation i wont be a dick?

five.slow
03-27-2014, 06:17 PM
Kris's car and tuning methods are proven on the track and has evidence. That speaks volumes in my book. His car was NA and trapped 180 @ the mile. My blown car couldn't get to the 170s.

In the car world, evidence and real world results matter. I have nothing against AED, but there are other options out there which people should consider before blindly following the masses.

i agree thats why i made the comment for the op to call around and talk to shops. i didnt go AED because of the masses. i heard about AED before shaun was even mentioned on the forums for tuning and got my tune before then too.

i never said kris had a slow car im sure its very impressive and if he beat my old supercharged car i would seriously shake his hand and say good job and fast car. being a prick about it just isnt cool.

garner
03-28-2014, 01:00 AM
Which effectively translates to: "the car was fast, I have no measurable way to show it, but that's what my butt-o-meter says." Yes you're entitled to your opinion, but when you say the car is fast, someone like me is going to eventually come along and ask you how fast, which you can't answer. So it's completely subjective, not objective.



I have no desire to "look better". I'm not in this business. What I will do is call people out when they can't back up their claims. Evidently some would prefer to just let them continue to spew their bullshit and never question it.

Not everybody is looking to run 10s. To the AED customer base, fast could be mid 11s

kdanner
03-28-2014, 03:23 AM
Not everybody is looking to run 10s. To the AED customer base, fast could be mid 11s

There's nothing wrong with that, at all. There's just that one forum which is a massive AED circle jerk, where Shaun pays protection money to the owner to be able to do that, where all his ballwashers carry on and on about how great he is, even though he has no measurable results anywhere close to plenty of other people in the business. People read this, don't know any better, and buy into the hype too. The OP in this thread asked for opinion about calibrations from Shaun and Jeff. I gave him mine, and stand by it.

garner
03-28-2014, 04:23 AM
There's nothing wrong with that, at all. There's just that one forum which is a massive AED circle jerk, where Shaun pays protection money to the owner to be able to do that, where all his ballwashers carry on and on about how great he is, even though he has no measurable results anywhere close to plenty of other people in the business. People read this, don't know any better, and buy into the hype too. The OP in this thread asked for opinion about calibrations from Shaun and Jeff. I gave him mine, and stand by it.

Oh I know, I've seen it lol. It can be amusing and annoying.

I agree Jeff would be a good option, mainly due to the fact he's local which is a huge plus when it comes to the bigger mods

DirtyD
03-28-2014, 09:27 AM
There's nothing wrong with that, at all. There's just that one forum which is a massive AED circle jerk, where Shaun pays protection money to the owner to be able to do that, where all his ballwashers carry on and on about how great he is, even though he has no measurable results anywhere close to plenty of other people in the business. People read this, don't know any better, and buy into the hype too. The OP in this thread asked for opinion about calibrations from Shaun and Jeff. I gave him mine, and stand by it.
Revolution Auto seems to be becoming the new AED tuner of email tunes. But there are a good bit of those guys with actual track results too to back it up. Lots of CJ mani cars coming from there late.

DirtyD
03-28-2014, 09:27 AM
so if i talk shit about a shop with no read negative reputation i wont be a dick?
No, you just don't have to seem like you are walking around wanting to slice somebody's head off at the first chance.

five.slow
03-28-2014, 01:57 PM
No, you just don't have to seem like you are walking around wanting to slice somebody's head off at the first chance.

what about just talking shit about people just because you think you are better?

paying protection money? seriously its the internet you dont pay protection money. if he just said "i dont like shaun @ aed because i haven't seen any measurable results" that would be respectable but to sit here and say shit like "all the ball washers" and stupid shit like that is immature. there is a reason he got banned on SVTP. its not because he voiced his opinion it was for slander. no one will ever the best and there is always someone out there that is better but he thinks hes gods gift to the 5.0.

kdanner
03-29-2014, 02:37 AM
Revolution Auto seems to be becoming the new AED tuner of email tunes. But there are a good bit of those guys with actual track results too to back it up. Lots of CJ mani cars coming from there late.

Noticing that similarity too. Watch carefully though, and you'll see some instances like them acting like a car has a stock long block, when you can find older posts about it having headwork and cams. Or comments like "well we ran 10.50 NA 2 years ago". Yeah, in a stripped down SN95, not an S197, but they left that part out.



paying protection money? seriously its the internet you dont pay protection money.

On that forum you do, and it is commonly known. Anything which might look the slightest bit negative toward someone who pays gets deleted. It's not at all unique to Shaun, Jay Tucker's antics haven't been tolerated on multiple other forums either. But there, he's protected.


there is a reason he got banned on SVTP.

There sure is, but you don't know what it is. Let me help you out. They couldn't even get that right, they don't know the difference between delete and ban.
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2014gt
03-29-2014, 04:56 PM
i would rather lack alittle on the performance side as long as its reliable, but i would prefer to have my car on a dyno tune for the juice