400 Bone Stock Bitches, well with a tune from CTP hell ya

[KnightRider5.0]

Hey guys, I know it's not a huge thing but I'm impressed I pulled all my aftermarket parts off to get my car ready to sell in a few months. Well I decided to have CTP retune the car just so it would still be fun to drive, stock tune sucks we all know this. Anyways Jeff retuned the car and corrected she made 401 hp 391 tq. Which is funny and pissed me off cuz with a boss intake, roush CAI, BBK x pipe, lethal over the axle pipes and roush ABs I only made 12 more HP. WtF right but I'm proud of my baby for still making 401 with just a K&N drop in, I'm running mobile 1 full syn, and royal purple tranny fluid. Only mods are upgraded clutch line and catch cans. Anyways here's my dynos all done by CTP

With bolt ons before tune
1222

With bolt ons after tune
1223

Bone stock (now)
1224

[DirtyD]

What tune did you have before?

(Derek from Facebook here)

[BERT]

I bet that Boss intake was hurting you.

[KnightRider5.0]

Before CTP ever tuned it it was just a FRPP race tune to run the boss IM

[DirtyD]

Yeah, I'm betting it was hurting bad, and wasn't setup for the other things. Why didn't you run the Boss IM before tune dyno run past 7k RPM?

[KnightRider5.0]

Cuz fords tune kept the stock redline for "Safery"

[DirtyD]

Cuz fords tune kept the stock redline for "Safery"
Dumb. lol

[downtime!]

Not too surprising really. The stock airbox and exhaust are incredibly efficient on these cars. Mine made 410 with the canned VMP tune through the stock airbox and with the PypeBombs installed. Same setup I'm running again.

[five.slow]

all you really gotta do to make over 420 on a mt82 car is delete the cats and get a tune... 401 with a tune isnt all that, sorry man its normal. tune with off road h and flowmasters made 426 on my old car. gained like 3hp with the jlt.

[garner]

Nice numbers!

Think I've seen your car around Ctc

[Dan12GT]

I've honestly thought about switching back to the stock air box while still being on the stock tune and all. Also curious what REAL gains the CAI actually makes.

[downtime!]

I've honestly thought about switching back to the stock air box while still being on the stock tune and all. Also curious what REAL gains the CAI actually makes.The tube itself? Next to nothing actually. 95% of the power comes from the tune.

[re-rx7]

I've honestly thought about switching back to the stock air box while still being on the stock tune and all. Also curious what REAL gains the CAI actually makes.

In the summertime. THe stock box will out perform the CAI.

[Dan12GT]

The tube itself? Next to nothing actually. 95% of the power comes from the tune.


But it makes neato swooshing noises! :)

[downtime!]

I went right back to my old Vette killing ways as soon as the blower was off. Had a yellow C6 want to play literally less than 5 minutes after starting her up for the first time sans blower. Left him in the dust. Car is still fun to drive!

[Zeek]

I went right back to my old Vette killing ways as soon as the blower was off. Had a yellow C6 want to play literally less than 5 minutes after starting her up for the first time sans blower. Left him in the dust. Car is still fun to drive!

The C6 you raced must have been retarded......(Driver)

[downtime!]

The C6 you raced must have been retarded......(Driver)I've never lost to a C6. You must have a slow 5.0.

[Zeek]

I've never lost to a C6. You must have a slow 5.0.

Actually I have a C6 and would walk just about all the 5.0s on this board.

[DirtyD]

all you really gotta do to make over 420 on a mt82 car is delete the cats and get a tune... 401 with a tune isnt all that, sorry man its normal. tune with off road h and flowmasters made 426 on my old car. gained like 3hp with the jlt.


426 needs a little more than that, if you aren't on a happy dyno in 45-50° weather

[downtime!]

Actually I have a C6 and would walk just about all the 5.0s on this board.I know of several that would show you nothing but tail lights. Try Darkpony if you want. His car is now what my car was. As soon as they finish the tuning he can show what a fast car really is.

[downtime!]

And if that doesn't work, I can try to accommodate you in the '72. It's just a slow old carb'd car.

[re-rx7]

I know of several that would show you nothing but tail lights. Try Darkpony if you want. His car is now what my car was. As soon as they finish the tuning he can show what a fast car really is.

And if that doesn't work, I can try to accommodate you in the '72. It's just a slow old carb'd car.

Downtime is in the mood to run.....:hands:

I ran a c6 and put the hurt on him. You make in the 500's zeek. That is not beast mode.

[Zeek]

Downtime is in the mood to run.....:hands:

I ran a c6 and put the hurt on him. You make in the 500's zeek. That is not beast mode.

No its not beast mode. But it will give most blower 5.0s a good run.

[Grandpa]

No its not beast mode. But it will give most blower 5.0s a good run.

LOL, absolutely. A Mustang needs about 150rw more than whatever the Vette is to overcome the weight, aero and gearing differences. A 500rw Vette will eat a blown 600rw Stang's lunch.

[re-rx7]

LOL, absolutely. A Mustang needs about 150rw more than whatever the Vette is to overcome the weight, aero and gearing differences. A 500rw Vette will eat a blown 600rw Stang's lunch.

Not in the qtr. I see stock shelbys taking down modded Zo's. By this logic you would need 500 whp to play with stock vettes..

[Zeek]

I'm not talking about the 1/4. TBH id be terrible at the drag strip. I've only been a couple times and never with the vette. It don't help at the have all season tires on. But for comparison with my same setup Vic went like 10.30 at 132 or something close to that.

[downtime!]

LOL! Really? I guess I need to give several people their money back then. Damn near paid for all the mods done to mine from Believers in The Plastic Fantastic.

LOL, absolutely. A Mustang needs about 150rw more than whatever the Vette is to overcome the weight, aero and gearing differences. A 500rw Vette will eat a blown 600rw Stang's lunch.

[Grandpa]

Not in the qtr. I see stock shelbys taking down modded Zo's. By this logic you would need 500 whp to play with stock vettes..

I'm referring to on the street.

[kdanner]

I'm not talking about the 1/4. TBH id be terrible at the drag strip. I've only been a couple times and never with the vette. It don't help at the have all season tires on. But for comparison with my same setup Vic went like 10.30 at 132 or something close to that.

Lightweight car like that with that many cubic inches even has to have the cam changed to run numbers like that? Wow, that's sorry. :troll3:

[STROKD]

LOL, absolutely. A Mustang needs about 150rw more than whatever the Vette is to overcome the weight, aero and gearing differences. A 500rw Vette will eat a blown 600rw Stang's lunch.

Exactly... I had a similar setup to zeek, and i smoked 2 5.0s with bolt ons and 150 shots... I was on my nitrous tune with the bottle off making around 475 rw. my car on the bottle was nasty (trapped 143+)..

People that havent raced a well setup vette, just dont know. Zeek's c6 will prison rape that dart from a roll, and that darkside pony when on the jug. :headbang:

[Zeek]

What's Darkpony's build anyways?

[STROKD]

What's Darkpony's build anyways?

Downtime said darkpony would be similar to his... which was a kennebell trapping mid 30s... if u do t trap over 140 on the spray Ill be confused since we had nearly identical builds.

[Zeek]

Downtime said darkpony would be similar to his... which was a kennebell trapping mid 30s... if u do t trap over 140 on the spray Ill be confused since we had nearly identical builds.

If he traps 135 i think I'd still beat him in a roll race. Without the bottle.

[re-rx7]

Yup with stock heads and cams lol.

[re-rx7]

If he traps 135 i think I'd still beat him in a roll race. Without the bottle.

Shit. Get a shelby bolt ons, radials, 9's. Fuck. What makes the vette fast isn't the engine. It's the weight and aero. The coyote motor na is way more efficient then the Ls3 motor.

[Zeek]

Shit. Get a shelby bolt ons, radials, 9's. Fuck. What makes the vette fast isn't the engine. It's the weight and aero. The coyote motor na is way more efficient then the Ls3 motor.

Not quite sure on that. With Bolton's and cam with stock heads I'm putting 500 down. 5.0s with all 4 cams put what down maybe 450? And besides that the ls3 has way more torque. And the ls3 is 7 years old? The 5.0 is 3 I'd hope they would have cought up in 5 years.

[re-rx7]

Not quite sure on that. With Bolton's and cam with stock heads I'm putting 500 down. 5.0s with all 4 cams put what down maybe 450? And besides that the ls3 has way more torque. And the ls3 is 7 years old? The 5.0 is 3 I'd hope they would have cought up in 5 years.

Ford is considered the inferior engine and they put down more hp per cubic inch. The only reason your car is faster then a mustang with same power is weight and aero. That simple. Case in point the new camaro with same engine is slow as balls.

5.0's with cams and boltons are appraoching 500 wheel if not more. The Trinity makes more hp then the SC 6.2 and a smaller engine. Yea superior my ass.

[kdanner]

If he traps 135 i think I'd still beat him in a roll race. Without the bottle.

I think you probably way oversimplify things, but let's see. So you putting down your 500, without your bottle, can you pull a ZR-1?

[Grandpa]

Ford is considered the inferior engine and they put down more hp per cubic inch. The only reason your car is faster then a mustang with same power is weight and aero. That simple. Case in point the new camaro with same engine is slow as balls.

5.0's with cams and boltons are appraoching 500 wheel if not more. The Trinity makes more hp then the SC 6.2 and a smaller engine. Yea superior my ass.

In my opinion, the whole argument is null and void when it comes to modified vehicles. The only fair way to compare cars is in stock form, which most of us don't leave our cars stock.

You can make your point saying that the 5.0 is the better engine saying it's more efficient making more power vs displacement and you might be right with your opinion but it's doesn't change the fact that a 600rw Stang is going to get beat by 500rw Vette.

Bench or calculator racing doesn't always work. With comparable cars you can ballpark it I guess, but it's far from accurate.

As far as the street scene goes and racing, a 5.0 has to overcome a lot to make up for the weight and gearing difference of the Vette putting it at a serious disadvantage.

These Coyotes can be very fast, but in order to do so an owner has to be willing to throw quite of money at it in order to be competitive with everything in the parking lot at a meet. Otherwise it's best to stick to racing stuff like Camaros, Challengers and a few imports.

[re-rx7]

In my opinion, the whole argument is null and void when it comes to modified vehicles. The only fair way to compare cars is in stock form, which most of us don't leave our cars stock.

You can make your point saying that the 5.0 is the better engine saying it's more efficient making more power vs displacement and you might be right with your opinion but it's doesn't change the fact that a 600rw Stang is going to get beat by 500rw Vette.

Bench or calculator racing doesn't always work. With comparable cars you can ballpark it I guess, but it's far from accurate.

As far as the street scene goes and racing, a 5.0 has to overcome a lot to make up for the weight and gearing difference of the Vette putting it at a serious disadvantage.

These Coyotes can be very fast, but in order to do so an owner has to be willing to throw quite of money at it in order to be competitive with everything in the parking lot at a meet. Otherwise it's best to stick to racing stuff like Camaros, Challengers and a few imports.

This is true. Mustang were never the vette comp. People just see it that way since most camros and challngers dont have a snowballs chance in hell. The camaro and stanf are on even fields weight and aero wise. Now the new stang is damn near the weight of the C7.

[five.slow]

426 needs a little more than that, if you aren't on a happy dyno in 45-50° weather

75ish outside on one dyno 426 in california, dyno in texas a few months before was 421 and it was a little warmer maby 80 at the highest. its in the tune i guess.

[DirtyD]

75ish outside on one dyno 426 in california, dyno in texas a few months before was 421 and it was a little warmer maby 80 at the highest. its in the tune i guess.


Impressive then

[five.slow]

Impressive then

id go with more like a little on the factory freak side. car always made good power. with just a lund tune(my first tune ever on the car) and mufflers i think it was either 386 or 396 on a mustang dyno. cant remember, only thing i have left from that car is the window sticker.

[Dark Pony]

I guess we'll need to meet up and quit bench racing:yawn:

[Dark Pony]

I have no fucking clue what car makes right now...nor do I care. What I can tell you, is my car isn't the usual heavy pig. I'd say the tune is spot on and traction isn't a question. While the power adder is fairly new to me, driving fast cars isn't. I'd oblige a C6 any day.

[Grandpa]

I have no fucking clue what car makes right now...nor do I care. What I can tell you, is my car isn't the usual heavy pig. I'd say the tune is spot on and traction isn't a question. While the power adder is fairly new to me, driving fast cars isn't. I'd oblige a C6 any day.

What's the new combo?

[Dark Pony]

What's the new combo?

2.8 Kenne Bell with stock pulley

[DirtyD]

What's the new combo?


Bryan's (downtimes) old setup

[Grandpa]

2.8 Kenne Bell with stock pulley

Sounds like fun. =)

[Zeek]

I have no fucking clue what car makes right now...nor do I care. What I can tell you, is my car isn't the usual heavy pig. I'd say the tune is spot on and traction isn't a question. While the power adder is fairly new to me, driving fast cars isn't. I'd oblige a C6 any day.

So I have Monday off. You willing to meet in Dallas? Oblige me!

[downtime!]

So I have Monday off. You willing to meet in Dallas? Oblige me!It won't be a roll race, hope you can actually launch that thing.

[Zeek]

It won't be a roll race, hope you can actually launch that thing.

Im glad you can talk for Darkpony. I'm not going from a dig. Thats not what i set my car up for. I'm not interested in 1/4 miles. He said he would take on a C6 any day. Left that kinda open. Im saying run 50-150. If he's scared to go fast thats fine. Forfeit.

[downtime!]

Im glad you can talk for Darkpony. I'm not going from a dig. Thats not what i set my car up for. I'm not interested in 1/4 miles. He said he would take on a C6 any day. Left that kinda open. Im saying run 50-150. If he's scared to go fast thats fine. Forfeit.Typical BS Vette driver. "I'm fast, but only from a roll". He'll need to change wheels for a "pussy" race, but I'm sure he can still cover you. His call though.

[Zeek]

Typical BS Vette driver. "I'm fast, but only from a roll". He'll need to change wheels for a "pussy" race, but I'm sure he can still cover you. His call though.

If I had slicks and some time at the track 1st i'd be up for it. I've never been down the track with this car and only been down a 1/8th 3 times. Nothing "Pussy" about it. Idc if i have a Vette or mustang or whatever. I'm not a vette person. I'm a fast car person.

[re-rx7]

Have fun with radials at track in a vette.

[Zeek]

Have fun with radials at track in a vette.

I remember saying slicks

[Grandpa]

Typical BS Vette driver. "I'm fast, but only from a roll". He'll need to change wheels for a "pussy" race, but I'm sure he can still cover you. His call though.

:snoopfacepalm::buttkick:

[DirtyD]

1241

[re-rx7]

I remember saying

Slick whatever. The diff in those cars suck. I'd bet damn good money the rear in the vette breaks long before the stangs does.

[re-rx7]

If I had slicks and some time at the track 1st i'd be up for it. I've never been down the track with this car and only been down a 1/8th 3 times. Nothing "Pussy" about it. Idc if i have a Vette or mustang or whatever. I'm not a vette person. I'm a fast car person.

In a qtr your fucked.

[Grandpa]

Slick whatever. The diff in those cars suck. I'd bet damn good money the rear in the vette breaks long before the stangs does.

This is much is true. But let's leave it to the two guys who are actually going to race to decide how they are going to do it rather than everyone else telling them how it should go down. Let's just hope for some good video out of it.

[re-rx7]

Vid ftw!!!

[kdanner]

If he traps 135 i think I'd still beat him in a roll race. Without the bottle.


You never answered. Can you pull a ZR-1 without your bottle?

[NAVAG]

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/500/mosspopcorn.gif

[Grandpa]

You never answered. Can you pull a ZR-1 without your bottle?

He hasn't had the car that long and I doubt he's had the opportunity to race one yet to find out if he can or not.

[Zeek]

You never answered. Can you pull a ZR-1 without your bottle?

Tbh I'm not sure. I'd love to race a stock one to see how I compare.

[46Tbird]

I've never been down the track with this car and only been down a 1/8th 3 times. Nothing "Pussy" about it.

That's funny. Maybe you should put that in your sig.

[STROKD]

Not stupid at all to not want to launch a Vette often. Its hard on expensive parts. Its 2 to 3 grand to drop the rear out for repairs, not same as swapping an axle or cheap ass rear end out in your driveway for a Mustang repair. Mustang has a big supercharger, shouldnt be afraid to run a roll race. I had people ask me to run roll races all the time when my Stang was up, and I gave them their race, same as I did to dig racers, on slicks and skinnies and all. Its all in fun, or used to be. Now everyone is looking for an edge or wont bother racing for fear of losing... pussification of America...

[re-rx7]

The ford rear is stronger then the vettes. Yet, gear I thought the vette was all might and The Lord of all cars. Yea it breaks very often at a drag strip. Yea it may be a cheap rear end in the stang but guess what? It fuckin works. Any fast gm most likely has a 9".

[STROKD]

Its cheap because its simple. I didnt say it sucked, just that it doesnt cost a fortune to repair. Wtf is wrong with you, you take everything so gd personal. I wasnt talking to you, or your "Experience with having a Corvette" the Vette can be made to hold up to drag racing (without a 9 inch, that was funny btw), but Zeek's rear end is stock, and not the best idea to break the piss out of it over a stupid ass, meaningless race.

[re-rx7]

Why is it a stupid race? I said any fast gm most likely has a 9".

[STROKD]

Hey rx, check this out... stock rear and all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okAxJiWlqdo

Cam and bolt ons, same as Dan, same friend built both cars... he has a f1r grandsport now. ;)

[STROKD]

Why is it a stupid race? I said any fast gm most likely has a 9".

Its a meaningless internet squabble, no money or anything on the line to risk jacking up his car over it...

There are plenty of vettes running fast times without a 9 inch... thats why i laughed at you.

[re-rx7]

I didn't say vettes. I said gm's. who knows if there is money. If its stupid to race then why do any of us? The vette is the fastest of cars. It can't break.

[re-rx7]

Hey rx, check this out... stock rear and all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okAxJiWlqdo

Cam and bolt ons, same as Dan, same friend built both cars... he has a f1r grandsport now. ;)

Awesome. I wonder just how long it lasted? Lolololol

[STROKD]

Awesome. I wonder just how long it lasted? Lolololol

Um, about 2 or 3 years i think. It had the clutch swapped a few times, dont think the rear ever broke... i broke my axle and diff cover, but I was on taller drag radials instead of a softer bias ply tire, and i launched my vette like i do my stang... rev shit to moon and drop clutch... ended up costing me 1300 bucks at true street to get it repaired. lesson learned lol

[STROKD]

I didn't say vettes. I said gm's. who knows if there is money. If its stupid to race then why do any of us? The vette is the fastest of cars. It can't break.

I know what you said, 3 times now... a vette is made by gm, and they can be made to go fast without a 9 inch. again, thats why i laughed at you and your silly statement.

[Grandpa]

I'm now taking bribes for a daily ban on rx7, Matt. I still havent been to So-cal hint hint..lol

[STROKD]

I'm now taking bribes for a daily ban on rx7, Matt. I still havent been to So-cal hint hint..lol

HA! When are we going? Bye bye rx... lmfao

[BERT]

LMAO, this is way past funny

[re-rx7]

I'm now taking bribes for a daily ban on rx7, Matt. I still havent been to So-cal hint hint..lol

Could have swore I was on a mustang site and not a gm.

[BERT]

So we're only allowed to talk Mustangs? Good to know

[Grandpa]

Could have swore I was on a mustang site and not a gm.

It has nothing to do with being a Mustang site. Being a Mustang fan is fine, nothing wrong with that at all. It's more about not being so brand loyal you argue past logic and reason to suit your argument. When you become unreasonable you just drive people crazy.

So I saw the opportunity to get Matt to buy me lunch at a taco shop I've been wanting to try for awhile in the mid-cities. I haven't made up my mind yet so don't tempt me. lol


Blind brand loyalty is retarded. I love all fast cars. GM, Ford, Dodge, imports, whatever. If its fast, I'm interested.

[Grandpa]

So we're only allowed to talk Mustangs? Good to know

"Hey..nice black wheels"

"Yeah, you too".

"What mods do you have?"

"CAI and mufflers"

"Yeah me too"

"But I drug a bolt on C6 Vette the other night"

"Yeah, no shit? How fast have you been at the track?"

"13'oh's. But I'm gonna get a Boss intake so I can shift at 8000rpm and that will get me in the 12's"


:poker:

[46Tbird]

You gonna make a pass in that stock V?

[Grandpa]

You gonna make a pass in that stock V?

If it's stock by the time I make it there.. lol

[DirtyD]

"Hey..nice black wheels"

"Yeah, you too".

"What mods do you have?"

"CAI and mufflers"

"Yeah me too"

"But I drug a bolt on C6 Vette the other night"

"Yeah, no shit? How fast have you been at the track?"

"13'oh's. But I'm gonna get a Boss intake so I can shift at 8000rpm and that will get me in the 12's"


:poker:
Sounds like one of the American Muscle nut swinger employees that has the same bolt-ons as Nic (LTs, Boss IM, etc) and is impressed that car runs 12.1-11.9 at the track on DRs.....:lol:

[Grandpa]

Sounds like one of the American Muscle nut swinger employees that has the same bolt-ons as Nic (LTs, Boss IM, etc) and is impressed that car runs 12.1-11.9 at the track on DRs.....:lol:

Exactly.

[Dark Pony]

Weekdays are bad for me. Weekends, well that can be arranged. As you may have "set your car up" for "roll racing"...I have set mine up for real racing. It's interesting that you'd be so quick to say you'd forfeit if it wasn't what you wanted. Oh well, again, I have no problem running a vette. Personally, I love vettes and have wanted one since I was little kid. I just can't stand the majority of the vette owners. Most, think they are gods gift to the earth and it is quite entertaining catching the look on their face when they get beat by a Mustang ;-)

[Grandpa]

I have set mine up for real racing.

LOL..oh here we go. I knew this was coming.


Racing is racing. Roll, dead stop, drift, autocross etc. Anytime you compete against another car it's a race. Just because it doesn't suit one's personal preference of racing, doesn't mean it's not "real racing". It's such nonsense.

[DirtyD]

Weekdays are bad for me. Weekends, well that can be arranged. As you may have "set your car up" for "roll racing"...I have set mine up for real racing. It's interesting that you'd be so quick to say you'd forfeit if it wasn't what you wanted. Oh well, again, I have no problem running a vette. Personally, I love vettes and have wanted one since I was little kid. I just can't stand the majority of the vette owners. Most, think they are gods gift to the earth and it is quite entertaining catching the look on their face when they get beat by a Mustang ;-)

prime example being the attitudes in this thread. lol

[Dominic Toretto]

Weekdays are bad for me. Weekends, well that can be arranged. As you may have "set your car up" for "roll racing"...I have set mine up for real racing. It's interesting that you'd be so quick to say you'd forfeit if it wasn't what you wanted. Oh well, again, I have no problem running a vette. Personally, I love vettes and have wanted one since I was little kid. I just can't stand the majority of the vette owners. Most, think they are gods gift to the earth and it is quite entertaining catching the look on their face when they get beat by a Mustang ;-)

Sounds like you're describing Supra owners now.

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Sounds like you're describing Supra owners now.

-Alex

Junkie's Supra has been faster from a dig or a roll than any Mustang on this site. Jus sayin..

[Dominic Toretto]

Junkie's Supra has been faster from a dig or a roll than any Mustang on this site. Jus sayin..

Not denying that. Just pointing out the overall attitude of Supra owners in General. Especially MK4 guys. Love the cars but, for the most part, the owners suck more than their turbos.

-Alex

[Dark Pony]

Steve, I respect auto cross, road racing, drag racing...but I wouldn't necessarily consider roll racing in the same category.

[Grandpa]

Not denying that. Just pointing out the overall attitude of Supra owners in General. Especially MK4 guys. Love the cars but, for the most part, the owners suck more than their turbos.

-Alex

Meh, stereotypes suck. Funny sometimes, but to generalize a whole group of people is pretty lame.

Steve, I respect auto cross, road racing, drag racing...but I wouldn't necessarily consider roll racing in the same category.

I'm curious, but why is that?

[Dark Pony]

Generally, guys like to roll race because they don't have traction...that's not my fucking fault...I'm sure my car is over 600WHP and I don't have traction issues...

[Grandpa]

Generally, guys like to roll race because they don't have traction...that's not my fucking fault...I'm sure my car is over 600WHP and I don't have traction issues...

That might be partially true, but wouldn't part of that be that most people don't roll around on slicks in street trim?

The other part of it isn't true at all. Many people don't dig race because it's not as hard on drivetrain and rear end parts, but also there isn't many places you can dig race so it's easy just to get a low roll in on a Mexican highway.

600rw isn't exactly a lot of power and shouldn't be hard to hook with the tire you are running and how heavy the car is.

[blownaltered]

That might be partially true, but wouldn't part of that be that most people don't roll around on slicks in street trim?

The other part of it isn't true at all. Many people don't dig race because it's not as hard on drivetrain and rear end parts, but also there isn't many places you can dig race so it's easy just to get a low roll in on a Mexican highway.

600rw isn't exactly a lot of power and shouldn't be hard to hook with the tire you are running and how heavy the car is.

There are 6 drag strips within an hour of here, so there are plenty of places for dig racing. But I don't dig race because I'm not putting a cage in my vert, fuck that.

[Grandpa]

There are 6 drag strips within an hour of here, so there are plenty of places for dig racing. But I don't dig race because I'm not putting a cage in my vert, fuck that.

You know as well as anyone going to drag strip end up being more like work than going to have fun. Waiting in line for hours to maybe get in two or three passes, hoping you don't break something depending on the surface or some idiot in junker oiling down the track that doesn't get cleaned up well.

A night at the track has to be all planned out, lug out your gear, its a long drive, expensive only to get in two or three passes on a good night. It's just an asswhippin.

[Dark Pony]

Again, that's not my problem. My transmission could go anytime, but I'm not whining about it. And I'm sorry, but if you have the power that Zeeks car does and you choose to not put a good set of tires on it, that's idiotic. Power is useless unless you can put it down to the ground.

[BERT]

Junkie's Supra has been faster from a dig or a roll than any Mustang on this site. Jus sayin..



Yeah but it makes like 2000hp. It damn well better beat all mustangs on this site

[STROKD]

No its not your problem Corvettes cost a shit ton to replace parts with... accept the man's race for fun or dont worry about it. Complaining about a vette guy not wanting to dig race is a waste of time. I love racing from a stop, but Im not going to break my car over a quick pull... it doesnt make any sense. You have a blower and over 100 rw more than him, you should murder him from a roll.

[STROKD]

Yeah but it makes like 2000hp. It damn well better beat all mustangs on this site

Tmk, Clint has the fastest car on this site, and it has a gd Windsor in it! Woo woo!!!!!!

Long live the small block Ford!

[Dark Pony]

No its not your problem Corvettes cost a shit ton to replace parts with... accept the man's race for fun or dont worry about it. Complaining about a vette guy not wanting to dig race is a waste of time. I love racing from a stop, but Im not going to break my car over a quick pull... it doesnt make any sense. You have a blower and over 100 rw more than him, you should murder him from a roll.

Agreed. I told him I would race. I'm simply giving a rebuttal to Steve's excuses about roll racing. If I win, cool. If not, whatever. I like how Mustangs are being compared to Corvettes more these days than Camaros. Funny to me...

[Zeek]

I don't want to go from a dig because I have no experience with it. I'm not afraid to break anything. Like I said give me a few laps at the track and I'll give you a race there. I have better street tires in the mail. Sorry I don't have the money right now for slicks. I just spent 6k all together on the car and have to wait till next month for another set of mods. I like roll racing and that's what I bought the car for. If I wanted to hang at a strip all night I would have kept my mustang.

[Grandpa]

Again, that's not my problem. My transmission could go anytime, but I'm not whining about it. And I'm sorry, but if you have the power that Zeeks car does and you choose to not put a good set of tires on it, that's idiotic. Power is useless unless you can put it down to the ground.

You're missing the point. From a roll it doesn't shock the rear as much and less likely to break anything. The Vette wasn't designed for drag racing in mind. lol. It will hook fine. Go race and find out. :)

Yeah but it makes like 2000hp. It damn well better beat all mustangs on this site

LOL, you're a little off there, but I like your spirit.

No its not your problem Corvettes cost a shit ton to replace parts with... accept the man's race for fun or dont worry about it. Complaining about a vette guy not wanting to dig race is a waste of time. I love racing from a stop, but Im not going to break my car over a quick pull... it doesnt make any sense. You have a blower and over 100 rw more than him, you should murder him from a roll.

Now where is my fishing pole? I know its around here somewhere..

Tmk, Clint has the fastest car on this site, and it has a gd Windsor in it! Woo woo!!!!!!

Long live the small block Ford!

LOL, you're a lil out of the loop.

Agreed. I told him I would race. I'm simply giving a rebuttal to Steve's excuses about roll racing. If I win, cool. If not, whatever. I like how Mustangs are being compared to Corvettes more these days than Camaros. Funny to me...

Mustangs have come quite far from the foxbodies days for sure. The fact they are competing with BMW's now with fit, finish and performance says a lot. They will be compared to anything that shows up to a meet. We're all competitive here.

My prediction -

-----------> Dark Pony

--------------> Zeek N/A


-----------> Dark Pony

-----------------------------------------> Zeek on bottle.

[BERT]

LOL, you're a little off there, but I like your spirit.








No shit, you got the point.

[blownaltered]

You're missing the point. From a roll it doesn't shock the rear as much and less likely to break anything. The Vette wasn't designed for drag racing in mind. lol. It will hook fine. Go race and find out. :)



LOL, you're a little off there, but I like your spirit.



Now where is my fishing pole? I know its around here somewhere..



LOL, you're a lil out of the loop.



Mustangs have come quite far from the foxbodies days for sure. The fact they are competing with BMW's now with fit, finish and performance says a lot. They will be compared to anything that shows up to a meet. We're all competitive here.

My prediction -

-----------> Dark Pony

--------------> Zeek N/A


-----------> Dark Pony

-----------------------------------------> Zeek on bottle.

Clint's car is most likely the fastest car on this site at the moment. Clint's car should be in the high 4's in the 1/8th mile. Which in the quarter would be in the mid to high 7 range. So yes Strokd would be right.

[Grandpa]

Clint's car is most likely the fastest car on this site at the moment. Clint's car should be in the high 4's in the 1/8th mile. Which in the quarter would be in the mid to high 7 range. So yes Strokd would be right.

Hopefully they line up at TI so we can find out... :challenge:

[blownaltered]

Hopefully they line up at TI so we can find out... :challenge:

I didn't know Clint was bringing his dragster to TI. Seems like it would be a pointless race for him. He isn't geared for it.

[Grandpa]

I didn't know Clint was bringing his dragster to TI. Seems like it would be a pointless race for him. He isn't geared for it.

He did last year, newb.

[blownaltered]

He did last year, newb.

Well excuse the fuck out of me grandpa. It's still an auto, stall car so I figure TI wouldn't be the best showing for that car. It's a drag car so it is going to be out of its element in my opinion.

[Grandpa]

Well excuse the fuck out of me grandpa. It's still an auto, stall car so I figure TI wouldn't be the best showing for that car. It's a drag car so it is going to be out of its element in my opinion.

You're excused. I know you are new to the actual fast car scene and not used to being out of the sandbox. All is forgiven. lol

[Dark Pony]

No, Steve...I got your point. I understand the basic concept of hooking from a dig...which is why I built my car for it.

Zeek, we will work out a time and place. I just got about 90% of the tune done. The blower has only been on for a little over a week. I need to make sure my tuner says it's ok before I go beat the shit out of it.

[Dark Pony]

Our data logging has been cut short due to weather and work

[Grandpa]

No, Steve...I got your point. I understand the basic concept of hooking from a dig...which is why I built my car for it.

Zeek, we will work out a time and place. I just got about 90% of the tune done. The blower has only been on for a little over a week. I need to make sure my tuner says it's ok before I go beat the shit out of it.

It's all good buddy. Best of luck and I'm sure you will enjoy that new set up.

[re-rx7]

I agree with everything dark pony is saying. Who gives a rat snatch. If that vette is so much more superior it shouldn't have a problem beating stang from a roll or dig. Hell he cud ease it out of the hole and still eat dark pony. Cuz vette!!

[Zeek]

Zeek, we will work out a time and place. I just got about 90% of the tune done. The blower has only been on for a little over a week. I need to make sure my tuner says it's ok before I go beat the shit out of it.
Just let me know when you wanna go and we can set up a time/place

[Crimson600+HP]

Please take gopro footage!

[downtime!]

I have had a few Vette's over the years, including a GS with a 200 shot. Anyone that knows me, knows how I drive my cars. I beat on them pretty good. It's a damn car, I built it to have fun with, if it breaks I fix it. If you can't afford to pay, you shouldn't even be playing,

With that said, I never had any failures, or any kind, on any of my Vettes. They are a lot stronger than people give them credit for.

Don't be scared, line 'em up, drop the hammer and let's see what happens.

[DirtyD]

No its not your problem Corvettes cost a shit ton to replace parts with... accept the man's race for fun or dont worry about it. Complaining about a vette guy not wanting to dig race is a waste of time. I love racing from a stop, but Im not going to break my car over a quick pull... it doesnt make any sense. You have a blower and over 100 rw more than him, you should murder him from a roll.
Same thing could be said for Zeek and his complaining about not wanting to run a dig race. Just sayin'

[Grandpa]

Donnie and I are running one of each cuz he doesnt want to run the V from a dig. The difference is we dont give a shit about who wins/loses. We just enjoy breaking eachothers balls and acting like immature high school kids for a few minutes. Lmao

[blownaltered]

You're excused. I know you are new to the actual fast car scene and not used to being out of the sandbox. All is forgiven. lol

It's not my fault it took this long for members of the board to run the times I did in 2007. :driver:

I agree with everything dark pony is saying. Who gives a rat snatch. If that vette is so much more superior it shouldn't have a problem beating stang from a roll or dig. Hell he cud ease it out of the hole and still eat dark pony. Cuz vette!!

Will somebody please ban this fucking guy. For the love of god. Please tell me he is just trolling and not this stupid.


Donnie and I are running one of each cuz he doesnt want to run the V from a dig. The difference is we dont give a shit about who wins/loses. We just enjoy breaking eachothers balls and acting like immature high school kids for a few minutes. Lmao

I've got a for sale sign to bring with me tomorrow. That way when you get drug you can go ahead and put that shit box for sale in the parking lot. :fishing1:

[downtime!]

My '70 Cuda ran in the 10's too.

In 1980.

[blownaltered]

My '70 Cuda ran in the 10's too.

In 1980.

I wasn't in the 10's, I'm talking about the big boys. I was running high 7s low 8 s. Boy that was a fun car

[Grandpa]

I've got a for sale sign to bring with me tomorrow. That way when you get drug you can go ahead and put that shit box for sale in the parking lot. :fishing1:

Uhh huh. We'll see, Vanilla.

My '70 Cuda ran in the 10's too.

In 1980.

I'm sure it did. It also got 5 miles to the gallon on a good day, no power anything, some stellar drum brakes all the while cruising to your AM radio and 8 track blaring that you might be able to hear over your old school mudding tires. lol.
I wasn't in the 10's, I'm talking about the big boys. I was running high 7s low 8 s. Boy that was a fun car

Did it in a glorified go-kart. Doesn't count.

[downtime!]

I'm sure it did. It also got 5 miles to the gallon on a good day, no power anything, some stellar drum brakes all the while cruising to your AM radio and 8 track blaring that you might be able to hear over your old school mudding tires. lol. And exactly what does that have to do with anything? I was simply pointing out that there were fast street cars long before 2007. You, and your expertise on all thing car related, are a constant source of amusement.

[kdanner]

Tbh I'm not sure. I'd love to race a stock one to see how I compare.


Well that's an honest answer. I really expected you to say no. What I was getting at is I think you are very much oversimplifying with some of your statements like saying you could pull him if he traps under 135. First of all if your car has never been down a track you really don't know where you are at all. Second, my own car trapping 126 at the time ran around the middle of the ZR1 pack at the mile, outrunning more of them there than have been able to outrun me. I think the conditions at the mile very much simulate what you guys do on the highways, there's no traction there either, and we can't even run a soft tire.

[Zeek]

Well that's an honest answer. I really expected you to say no. What I was getting at is I think you are very much oversimplifying with some of your statements like saying you could pull him if he traps under 135. First of all if your car has never been down a track you really don't know where you are at all. Second, my own car trapping 126 at the time ran around the middle of the ZR1 pack at the mile, outrunning more of them there than have been able to outrun me. I think the conditions at the mile very much simulate what you guys do on the highways, there's no traction there either, and we can't even run a soft tire.

Well a good friend of mine has had the exact same build as me and he trapped in the 130s so that's what I'm basing my car off of.

[Zeek]

Looking at a bone stock ZR1's specs I'd like to say I'd give it a good run. Slight chance to win.

[DirtyD]

Well a good friend of mine has had the exact same build as me and he trapped in the 130s so that's what I'm basing my car off of.
Prepare to be flamed with "not all cars are the same" and other like comments. Just because your buddies car did it, doesn't mean yours will do it. You won't know until you actually do it with yours.

[Zeek]

Prepare to be flamed with "not all cars are the same" and other like comments. Just because your buddies car did it, doesn't mean yours will do it. You won't know until you actually do it with yours.

Well seeing as he built my car with the same parts as his and we both dynoed the same (within 5rwhp) before and after mods. I'm pretty sure mine will do the same. I'm not worried about being flamed. Now he's a better driver than me so. Just cuz I can't make the same times don't mean my car can't lol. He's got about 10years more experience than me.

[blownaltered]

Well seeing as he built my car with the same parts as his and we both dynoed the same (within 5rwhp) before and after mods. I'm pretty sure mine will do the same. I'm not worried about being flamed. Now he's a better driver than me so. Just cuz I can't make the same times don't mean my car can't lol. He's got about 10years more experience than me.

Here we go with this type of bullshit. This site kills me with this. My buddies car ran this so mine should, but he is a better driver so I won't do it but the car can do it. It doesn't matter what the car can do, if you drive like shit you still lose and will still be told your car is slow. The car is only as fast as you so if you suck so does your car. :banghead:

[DirtyD]

Now he's a better driver than me so. Just cuz I can't make the same times don't mean my car can't lol. He's got about 10years more experience than me.

You must have missed that entire argument between me and Steve over that EXACT statement. I agree and see things exactly as you do in regards to that.

Donnie beat me to it. hahah

[blownaltered]

You must have missed that entire argument between me and Steve over that EXACT statement. I agree and see things exactly as you do in regards to that. Just because the driver isn't the same, doesn't mean the car is slower. Driver is just slower.

Donnie beat me to it. hahah

What do we have to call him a non driving ass hat as well :signs1:

[Zeek]

I should be able to get pretty close to what Vic ran. I'm not terrible by any means. I can't wait to get my work schedule changed so I can go out to 190 and hurt some feelings.

[STROKD]

Prepare to be flamed with "not all cars are the same" and other like comments. Just because your buddies car did it, doesn't mean yours will do it. You won't know until you actually do it with yours.

Holy fuck you guys are dense. Did anyone see the fucken video I posted? That is Vic's old car. It was built by him, and he also built Zeek's car. They have the same cams, same motor mods, made almost the same power... they are also both fucken 08s!

The difference is Vic had a few hundred lbs out of his, and it was a 1lt which is another 100 lbs or so less. If Zeek had Vic do the same weight mods, the car will run about the same. If one person clones another car and its mods, they will run the about the same. This isnt rival shops from different cities with different weather etc etc... Zeek wont run a mid 10 at 132 with his street tires at full weight, but it will still be gd fast. Id guess a 127 to 128 as it sits... with him driving

[DirtyD]

Holy fuck you guys are dense. Did anyone see the fucken video I posted? That is Vic's old car. It was built by him, and he also built Zeek's car. They have the same cams, same motor mods, made almost the same power... they are also both fucken 08s!

The difference is Vic had a few hundred lbs out of his, and it was a 1lt which is another 100 lbs or so less. If Zeek had Vic do the same weight mods, the car will run about the same. If one person clones another car and its mods, they will run the about the same. This isnt rival shops from different cities with different weather etc etc... Zeek wont run a mid 10 at 132 with his street tires at full weight, but it will still be gd fast. Id guess a 127 to 128 as it sits... with him driving
I'm dense?

Clearly you have missed all of the chit chats I have had with Steve over this exact subject. I have the exact same view point as you do. If two cars are built with the exact same mods, yes, they should be fairly close, and it will depend on the drive.

Steve himself has stated MANY, MANY time that not all cars are the same. So don't come around giving that bullshit you just spewed when what I stated is the exact shit that is preached here time and time again like a broken record.

Even Donnie's quote says the complete opposite of what you are saying. So if you are going to call me dense, might as well throw the same density his direction.

Here we go with this type of bullshit. This site kills me with this. My buddies car ran this so mine should, but he is a better driver so I won't do it but the car can do it. It doesn't matter what the car can do, if you drive like shit you still lose and will still be told your car is slow. The car is only as fast as you so if you suck so does your car. :banghead:

[46Tbird]

I'll race anyone from 50-51mph. Just give me the leave. I'm ready to start breaking hearts on 183.

[Grandpa]

Here we go with this type of bullshit. This site kills me with this. My buddies car ran this so mine should, but he is a better driver so I won't do it but the car can do it. It doesn't matter what the car can do, if you drive like shit you still lose and will still be told your car is slow. The car is only as fast as you so if you suck so does your car. :banghead:

This guy gets it.

[Grandpa]

I'll race anyone from 50-51mph. Just give me the leave. I'm ready to start breaking hearts on 183.

Please, everyone knows its not possible to reach those speeds on 183 due to all the illegals driving 45 in the fast lane. Lol

[STROKD]

It was a blanket statement... if the shoe fits...

Did you and Steve have the same person do the exact same mods to your car? If not, its not the same as what Im saying... zeek's car is a clone of Vic's silver bullet, the only difference being weight at this point. afaik you and Steve have different mods and different tunes, just similar power. The other difference is Steve can drive great, and he says you cant... Vic is one of the best driver's in dfw I know of, but zeek is no slouch. ive personally raced him 5 times, and he can shift great. You and Steve were also talking about qtr mile racing, there is less involved from a roll... Zeek may not have as good as a launch technique as Vic persay, but Zeek can row the damn gears which is what matters from a roll.

[STROKD]

I'll race anyone from 50-51mph. Just give me the leave. I'm ready to start breaking hearts on 183.

Is that even measureable? ;)

[BERT]

Boooooooooooring

[Grandpa]

Boooooooooooring

No, no, no. Tonight is going to be fun. Bring your marshmellows because i have a feeling there will be a BBQ tonight in the parking lot when Donnie sets his car on far due to getting drug not to one but TWO of my stock cars in his fully built race car!!

[Dark Pony]

127mph < 135mph...just sayin

[Grandpa]

127mph < 135mph...just sayin

This guy is good at math.

[Dark Pony]

:waytogo:

[STROKD]

127mph < 135mph...just sayin

That is correct, so you should have no problems running from a roll so the pos vette doesnt break... when is race?

[Grandpa]

From now on im only racing when i have the clear advantage. So im calling out Strokd's 86 fox right now. Bring it chump! No motor is no excuse!

[Grandpa]

I also call out Donnie to a spelling bee.. lol

[blownaltered]

I also call out Donnie to a spelling bee.. lol

:sparta:

[DirtyD]

It was a blanket statement... if the shoe fits...

Did you and Steve have the same person do the exact same mods to your car? If not, its not the same as what Im saying... zeek's car is a clone of Vic's silver bullet, the only difference being weight at this point. afaik you and Steve have different mods and different tunes, just similar power. The other difference is Steve can drive great, and he says you cant... Vic is one of the best driver's in dfw I know of, but zeek is no slouch. ive personally raced him 5 times, and he can shift great. You and Steve were also talking about qtr mile racing, there is less involved from a roll... Zeek may not have as good as a launch technique as Vic persay, but Zeek can row the damn gears which is what matters from a roll.
Yeah, Steve says I can't. He's only seen my GoPro videos at the track, and seen me drive at the track. I have no where near the experience at the track as Steve does, but doesn't mean I can't drive on the street. I've only raced one person in this group on the street, and I'm pretty sure his car had a slight edge over me, being that he didn't beat me by much.

[STROKD]

From now on im only racing when i have the clear advantage. So im calling out Strokd's 86 fox right now. Bring it chump! No motor is no excuse!

Damn.

[Grandpa]

Yeah, Steve says I can't. He's only seen my GoPro videos at the track, and seen me drive at the track. I have no where near the experience at the track as Steve does, but doesn't mean I can't drive on the street. I've only raced one person in this group on the street, and I'm pretty sure his car had a slight edge over me, being that he didn't beat me by much.

Driving is driving, how does location change that?

[DirtyD]

Driving is driving, how does location change that?
I suck at launching. Never practiced feathering the clutch and stuff at the truck, and never really done it on the street either. Doesn't mean I can't row gears well enough.

[Grandpa]

I suck at launching. Doesn't mean I can't shift.

Is launching a car not part of driving?

[DirtyD]

Is launching a car not part of driving?
Not everyday driving.

[Grandpa]

I suck at launching. Never practiced feathering the clutch and stuff at the truck, and never really done it on the street either. Doesn't mean I can't row gears well enough.

If I need to sugar coat it for you to make you feel better, instead of saying you suck at driving, how about I just say that you are new to it and still getting the hang of it? :troll3:

[Grandpa]

Not everyday driving.

Every day driving is not racing. By your logic my grandma can win a NHRA Championship because she can drive a stick.

[DirtyD]

how about I just say that you are new to drag racing and still getting the hang of it?

Fixed it. This I will admit to. I can drive fine on the street. Track is a different story.

[DirtyD]

Every day driving is not racing. By your logic my grandma can win a NHRA Championship because she can drive a stick.
Never made those claims. Just saying that not all driving is the same. Driving at the drag strip is not driving on the street. So therefore all driving is not the same.

[BERT]

No, no, no. Tonight is going to be fun. Bring your marshmellows because i have a feeling there will be a BBQ tonight in the parking lot when Donnie sets his car on far due to getting drug not to one but TWO of my stock cars in his fully built race car!!



LOL, well then I just might show up

[Grandpa]

Never made those claims. Just saying that not all driving is the same. Driving at the drag strip is not driving on the street. So therefore all driving is not the same.

I swear, one of these days I will figure out how to communicate with your odd slighted logic. You're a puzzle, but I'll figure it out. lol

[blownaltered]

That's not funny one of my cars actually caught on fire once. I didn't do it but it did happen.

[Grandpa]

That's not funny one of my cars actually caught on fire once. I didn't do it but it did happen.

Gearheads FTW!!! :troll3:

[DirtyD]

I swear, one of these days I will figure out how to communicate with your odd slighted logic. You're a puzzle, but I'll figure it out. lol
What's so odd? I just said not all driving is the same. There are different elements to each type of racing/driving that are more important than others. You can at least agree with that, right?

[Grandpa]

What's so odd? I just said not all driving is the same. There are different elements to each type of racing/driving that are more important than others. You can at least agree with that, right?

Yes, I agree with that much.


The difference is launching your car on street tires at the track really isn't any different than launching it on the street. It still requires finesse in both locations. With regular radials on a prepped surface at the track doesn't do anything other than tear up the track for cars with proper drag radials and slicks.

[DirtyD]

Yes, I agree with that much.


The difference is launching your car on street tires at the track really isn't any different than launching it on the street. It still requires finesse in both locations. With regular radials on a prepped surface at the track doesn't do anything other than tear up the track for cars with proper drag radials and slicks.
Yeah, I rarely launch my car on the street as is. I've done it a few times, but with the sole purpose of spinning the tires just for the hell of it. :D Just haven't really worked on feathering the clutch and throttle, because I've never really found a place to do so safely.

[BERT]

That's not funny one of my cars actually caught on fire once. I didn't do it but it did happen.



Actually that makes it even funnier :D

[STROKD]

Yeah, I rarely launch my car on the street as is. I've done it a few times, but with the sole purpose of spinning the tires just for the hell of it. :D Just haven't really worked on feathering the clutch and throttle, because I've never really found a place to do so safely.

Go out late one night and practice off every green light... if u can get across the intersection and be on the floor with no tire spin, you will be able to do it at the track... tracks are sticky, streets arent...

[Zeek]

Go out late one night and practice off every green light... if u can get across the intersection and be on the floor with no tire spin, you will be able to do it at the track... tracks are sticky, streets arent...

Only reason I don't do this is because clutchs are expensive and I want mine to last as long as possible lol. But I'm also excited about getting a lightweight one. I'm rather torn if i wanna beat this one up fast and just pay for a lightweight one or baby it.

[DirtyD]

Go out late one night and practice off every green light... if u can get across the intersection and be on the floor with no tire spin, you will be able to do it at the track... tracks are sticky, streets arent...
I'll try that. :beer:

[Grandpa]

Go out late one night and practice off every green light... if u can get across the intersection and be on the floor with no tire spin, you will be able to do it at the track... tracks are sticky, streets arent...

To add to that, also learning how to "squeeze" the throttle rather than stabbing it will help too.

[DirtyD]

To add to that, also learning how to "squeeze" the throttle rather than stabbing it will help too.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/61/618e3f43637a64464f3b7a3996897ea9130783cf934889bdf6 9cb17530f8592b.jpg

[Grandpa]

Chip, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey!

Chip, I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew!

[STROKD]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/61/618e3f43637a64464f3b7a3996897ea9130783cf934889bdf6 9cb17530f8592b.jpg

Im not real sure what to do with my hands...

[DirtyD]

qYiWydDyMIE

[kdanner]

my grandma can win a NHRA Championship because she can drive a stick.

Careful, someone will run with that and the next thing you know the comments are from someone you don't even know that your g'ma is an NHRA champ and she bought the car for you or some crazy shit. Seriously. I just found mention of myself on some Boss forum tonight, and some chump there who I don't even know was telling people my car has an SCJ engine in it.

[Grandpa]

Careful, someone will run with that and the next thing you know the comments are from someone you don't even know that your g'ma is an NHRA champ and she bought the car for you or some crazy shit. Seriously. I just found mention of myself on some Boss forum tonight, and some chump there who I don't even know was telling people my car has an SCJ engine in it.

Lol, yes sir. I know exactly what you mean.

[STROKD]

Careful, someone will run with that and the next thing you know the comments are from someone you don't even know that your g'ma is an NHRA champ and she bought the car for you or some crazy shit. Seriously. I just found mention of myself on some Boss forum tonight, and some chump there who I don't even know was telling people my car has an SCJ engine in it.

Sounds like you should sell it to one of those guys for about 50 to 60 k then... totally worth it!