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TwoQuack
02-13-2014, 05:27 PM
Who's got an MGW Shifter?
How was the install?
Is the performance good?
Any praises, comments or complaints?
Thank you,
James TwoQuack
Grandpa
02-13-2014, 05:33 PM
I have one. The install was super easy because I had Toby at TrueStreet do it. lol
The shifts are no longer vague or sloppy like they were with the stock shifter. I actually didn't find the stock shifter all that bad until trying to race it at the track then it was a different story.
Excellent quality. No heat and doesn't vibrate at all. Solid shifter I would definitely buy again. I'm down the road from you if you'd like to check it out some time.
TwoQuack
02-13-2014, 05:41 PM
Thx SlowGreyGT, I would like to look it over. I'll have one arrive next week and then will install it sometime later.
PM me and we'll see about meeting up.
Boss949
02-13-2014, 06:55 PM
I have the MGW.
Slow Grey is correct. Stock shifter is great around town. When you put car under heavy load, then it's a crap shoot.
MGW is one of the best mods you can do for the car. The 2-3 shift is perfect. Under drag racing conditions, I still had a problem with 1-2 under heavy load (5500 +). Found out that this is due to the remote mounted shifter on the MT-82. It's a 1-2 lockout (3-4 for road racers).
To eliminate the 1-2 lockouts, I had the CHE K Member Brace with v8 engine torque limiters installed.
Loren Keller at Open Track Connection does all my installs.
Be sure to get install video from MGW. George is awesome to deal with.
TwoQuack
02-13-2014, 07:26 PM
I have the MGW.
Slow Grey is correct. Stock shifter is great around town. When you put car under heavy load, then it's a crap shoot.
MGW is one of the best mods you can do for the car. The 2-3 shift is perfect. Under drag racing conditions, I still had a problem with 1-2 under heavy load (5500 +). Found out that this is due to the remote mounted shifter on the MT-82. It's a 1-2 lockout (3-4 for road racers).
To eliminate the 1-2 lockouts, I had the CHE K Member Brace with v8 engine torque limiters installed.
Thx very much Boss949.
I had some shift issues around town in spirited driving. And then some bad experiences at a driving event trying to downshift from 4-3 or 3-2. It was then I decided a solution was needed.
DirtyD
02-14-2014, 10:30 AM
I have the MGW.
Slow Grey is correct. Stock shifter is great around town. When you put car under heavy load, then it's a crap shoot.
MGW is one of the best mods you can do for the car. The 2-3 shift is perfect. Under drag racing conditions, I still had a problem with 1-2 under heavy load (5500 +). Found out that this is due to the remote mounted shifter on the MT-82. It's a 1-2 lockout (3-4 for road racers).
To eliminate the 1-2 lockouts, I had the CHE K Member Brace with v8 engine torque limiters installed.
Loren Keller at Open Track Connection does all my installs.
Be sure to get install video from MGW. George is awesome to deal with.
MGW + Whiteline bushing insert = greatness.
JDMLOL
02-14-2014, 02:13 PM
...still had a problem with 1-2 under heavy load (5500 +). Found out that this is due to the remote mounted shifter on the MT-82. It's a 1-2 lockout (3-4 for road racers).
To eliminate the 1-2 lockouts, I had the CHE K Member Brace with v8 engine torque limiters installed.
Loren Keller at Open Track Connection does all my installs.
Be sure to get install video from MGW. George is awesome to deal with.
Is this why I get grinds into second some light to moderate grinds every once in a blue moon?
Boss949
02-14-2014, 02:53 PM
Could be. Under heavy load?
Also the reverse lockout pin might have to adjusted?
JDMLOL
02-14-2014, 02:56 PM
Could be. Under heavy load?
Also the reverse lockout pin might have to adjusted?
I've adjusted the reverse lockout pin. Yes, load is moderate to heavy.
Boss949
02-14-2014, 02:58 PM
That's what would happen under load. A crap shoot. It would go into 2nd like butter, then it's crunch time!!!
Grandpa
02-14-2014, 03:12 PM
You could try switching transmission fluids and the Whiteside bushing. That might help too.
TwoQuack
02-15-2014, 10:33 AM
Thanks for all the input y'all. Anyone near East Plano/Murphy/Wylie have a pair of ramps I can borrow to install the MGW Shifter? Won't need it until weekend of 22nd.
JDMLOL
02-15-2014, 10:44 AM
Thanks for all the input y'all. Anyone near East Plano/Murphy/Wylie have a pair of ramps I can borrow to install the MGW Shifter? Won't need it until weekend of 22nd.
Btw. I do like mine so don't think my problems are shifter-related. The shifter, fluid, and bushing are the only mods that come close to polishing that turd of a transmission they put in these cars. The mt-82 is junk.
NAVAG
02-15-2014, 12:18 PM
I tried watching the install video yesterday. Bored me to tears. The shifter is on my list but any time soon. I like how MGW addresses the entire shifter mounts, bushings etc. instead of just the top piece that most aftermarket shifters offer. The price is reasonable. Install looks like a pain in the ass with a lot of rolling in and out from under the car.
Soulowd
02-16-2014, 02:10 PM
I wonder if its about the same as a Barton? Kinda looking at both
KurvStr8nr
02-16-2014, 03:26 PM
I wonder if its about the same as a Barton? Kinda looking at both
I don't think it is. The MGW MT-82 shifter only uses the factory transmission shift linkage arm and replaces the reverse lockout, upper/lower shift box, shifter centering spring, and the rear support bracket. MGW updated their design for 2014 which allows the use of the factory dust boot. MGW claims about a 30% throw reduction. The install is well documented on their website http://mgwltd.com/2011-short_throw_shifter.shtml.
The Barton short throw shifter only replaces the upper shift box and the rear support bracket. The lower shift box, bushings, shift centering spring, and reverse lockout are still factory parts. Barton claims a 40% reduction in throw with their Dual Pivot Trunion. The install looks a little easier than the MGW, but you're replacing fewer components of the shifter with this kit.
MGW also includes hardware, sound deadening material, Loctite, grease, street & track rear support bracket bushings (diff durometers - both are stiffer than stock bushing), RTV for the rear support bracket, a shift boot grommet (to let you use after market shift knobs with factory boot), and a heat shield.
IMHO - It looks like the MGW kit is more complete and better engineered to give you high performance shift action while minimizing NVH. I'm planning to install the MGW shifter after my suspension work is done.
Soulowd
02-16-2014, 03:37 PM
I don't think it is. The MGW MT-82 shifter only uses the factory transmission shift linkage arm and replaces the reverse lockout, upper/lower shift box, shifter centering spring, and the rear support bracket. MGW updated their design for 2014 which allows the use of the factory dust boot. MGW claims about a 30% throw reduction. The install is well documented on their website http://mgwltd.com/2011-short_throw_shifter.shtml.
The Barton short throw shifter only replaces the upper shift box and the rear support bracket. The lower shift box, bushings, shift centering spring, and reverse lockout are still factory parts. Barton claims a 40% reduction in throw with their Dual Pivot Trunion. The install looks a little easier than the MGW, but you're replacing fewer components of the shifter with this kit.
MGW also includes hardware, sound deadening material, Loctite, grease, street & track rear support bracket bushings (diff durometers - both are stiffer than stock bushing), RTV for the rear support bracket, a shift boot grommet (to let you use after market shift knobs with factory boot), and a heat shield.
IMHO - It looks like the MGW kit is more complete and better engineered to give you high performance shift action while minimizing NVH. I'm planning to install the MGW shifter after my suspension work is done.
Wow...super informative thanks. Guess ill be going with MGW then:)
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