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Soulowd
02-08-2014, 11:42 PM
Alright Fellas I need opinions on the best tires for Street/Strip every day type of use. When I had my 04' Cobra I had Nitto 555 and those were pretty good. Im prob gonna stick with 19 inch rims as well...and.......GO!
downtime!
02-09-2014, 12:29 AM
No such thing as a good street/strip tire. Some are better than others, but as far as actual "good" goes, simply doesn't exist (unless you daily on ET's). Street tire launches are completely do-able, but they are hard on the clutch and unless you practice every weekend, are just too hard to duplicate effectively. Buy the Racestars that Darkpony is about to list for sale and keep them for the track outings.
DirtyD
02-09-2014, 01:23 AM
Get different rims. For the tire width you need, those wheels won't cut it.
Bacadiesel
02-09-2014, 02:28 AM
Michelin pilot super sports !!!!!!!!!!!
Crimson600+HP
02-09-2014, 03:14 AM
I wish I could swing the PSS' s, but that little extra performance isn't worth the extra money IMO. I have been looking into either the Bridgestone Pole Position S-04's or the Continental DW's in 285/35/18s for track day duty.
For whatever you end up with, swing an extra set of wheels for track day use. I run all season rated at 50k miles for DD use. No sense wasting great tires in city traffic
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 05:10 AM
Good stuff! Yeah maybe someday ill be able to afford some nice dark stars with some track wheels but for now gonna have to do a combo
re-rx7
02-09-2014, 11:13 AM
DD race car is a bad idea in general.
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 11:19 AM
Not a DD I have 12 Camry for DD use. But I realistically go to the track maybe a handful of times a year. Just need a well rounded tire
re-rx7
02-09-2014, 11:24 AM
Not a DD I have 12 Camry for DD use. But I realistically go to the track maybe a handful of times a year. Just need a well rounded tire
Sorry, I was talking to crimson600+. I like bridgestone and nitto is a tough tire to beat, especially if your just getting started. Work on your technique and lines before buying a truly outrageous priced set of tires.
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 11:29 AM
Sorry, I was talking to crimson600+. I like bridgestone and nitto is a tough tire to beat, especially if your just getting started. Work on your technique and lines before buying a truly outrageous priced set of tires.
Yeah there are some expensive tires out there for sure. I want some vossen rims but those retarded expensive too.
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 11:31 AM
Any one tried the Kumho Ecsta's?
Crimson600+HP
02-09-2014, 12:20 PM
Sorry, I was talking to crimson600+. I like bridgestone and nitto is a tough tire to beat, especially if your just getting started. Work on your technique and lines before buying a truly outrageous priced set of tires.
I don't everyday drive my car. I refer to DD whenever i drive my car on the street.I usually show it off like once a week when weather favors me driving it. I have raced in rain/wet conditions before and know the limits of my driving ability. For people who like to HPDE, dob t shy away from a wet track. You will learn more about your car there than anywhere else.
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 12:37 PM
I don't everyday drive my car. I refer to DD whenever i drive my car on the street.I usually show it off like once a week when weather favors me driving it. I have raced in rain/wet conditions before and know the limits of my driving ability. For people who like to HPDE, dob t shy away from a wet track. You will learn more about your car there than anywhere else.
you know the old saying, "Drive it like you stole it" :)
re-rx7
02-09-2014, 12:42 PM
Yeah there are some expensive tires out there for sure. I want some vossen rims but those retarded expensive too.
Good wheels.
Any one tried the Kumho Ecsta's?
HAd them on my 7. Not a bad tire.
I don't everyday drive my car. I refer to DD whenever i drive my car on the street.I usually show it off like once a week when weather favors me driving it. I have raced in rain/wet conditions before and know the limits of my driving ability. For people who like to HPDE, dob t shy away from a wet track. You will learn more about your car there than anywhere else.
I learned in the Mtns about driving. Grew up in the eastern part of OK near Talimena Dr.
GTOphil
02-09-2014, 02:51 PM
I'm looking forward to my new tires when I buy them.
I'm buying a set of SVE drifts with Nitto NT555s on them. I know they might not be the "best" out there, but they're what I wanted to go with for the price and they've GOT to be better than these freaking Pirellis that came with the car!
Just the fact that I'll have a wider contact patch makes me giggle...from 235/19s to 255/18 in the front and 285/18 in the back.
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 02:55 PM
I'm looking forward to my new tires when I buy them.
I'm buying a set of SVE drifts with Nitto NT555s on them. I know they might not be the "best" out there, but they're what I wanted to go with for the price and they've GOT to be better than these freaking Pirellis that came with the car!
Just the fact that I'll have a wider contact patch makes me giggle...from 235/19s to 255/18 in the front and 285/18 in the back.
Yeah I wouldnt mind having some sve drifts with some nittos as well. but i know as soon as i buy em someone will post up some vossen concave wheels like i want.
GTOphil
02-09-2014, 03:26 PM
SVE drift with Nittos is all I can afford right now...so my mind is made up lol
DirtyD
02-09-2014, 03:44 PM
Is your car an auto or manual? Honestly, if the car isn't a daily driver, get a set of SVE drag wheels, and some DRs. Don't waste your time on street tires, much less all season tires.
2014gt
02-09-2014, 05:06 PM
my plan is 555r for the street and bias plys for the track
275/60/15, if you have all that power might as well be able to use most of it on the street, granted the 555 wont dead hook or anything but it will be better than a summer tire
Soulowd
02-09-2014, 05:20 PM
Is your car an auto or manual? Honestly, if the car isn't a daily driver, get a set of SVE drag wheels, and some DRs. Don't waste your time on street tires, much less all season tires.
mine is manual
DirtyD
02-09-2014, 07:41 PM
mine is manual
Makes it kind of tricky. Bias ply at the track is what you will want to run, but getting a summer tire for the street should be able to give you good traction, but you will need at least a 285 tire, which won't fit on those GT/CS wheels
NAVAG
02-09-2014, 08:48 PM
My 5.0 is a Daily Driver and I recently bought
Continental Extreme Contact DW's
Very good tires
Light Weight
Good Grip
Long Tread Life
Slow Five-O
02-09-2014, 09:13 PM
My preference is for normal weekend or more where you're concerned with tire wear (but not DD) driving and good track use, NITTO NTO5R.
For some street use and not worried about tire wear or getting caught in the rain and excellent strip performance, MT ET STREET RADIAL.
If it's my DD (though i read it's not yours) regular low wear tires good in the rain. And slicks for the track!
My 82 is just a weekend cruiser, drive it sometimes and drive to the track. It's got a decent amount of power where i don't even feel like i would want to get on it with a non DR tire. I don't want to get caught at a stop light with no tires either. :p
I run nt05R on 17's and I'm surprised by their grip after swearing off Nitto's 6 years ago.
M3AN 1
02-12-2014, 09:58 AM
I have really grown to like the Continential Extreme Contact DW's. Had them on my blown Cobra and they laster longer and hooked better in the dry or wet then any of my nitto 555R's.Conti's were 285/40-18 vs the larger 305 nittos to.
Futwa
02-12-2014, 11:20 AM
I'll second or third I guess the Continentials. Quiet tire that was excellent in the rain, a good choice for dd cars.
DallasGator
02-18-2014, 10:20 PM
this is what I am thinking of when time comes: (tirerack.com prices)
BFGoodrich g-force Sport COMP-2
255/40R19 for $195 ea
285/35R19 for $208 ea
on brembo wheels, people say 285 doesn't fit but that's usually people that never tried. On another forum someone has 285s and it fits fine, minimal to zero bulge.
They have good ratings and reviews:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/rt-archive/bfgoodrich-g-force-sport-comp-2
Boss949
02-19-2014, 12:54 AM
Ask Travis about MT ET Street Radial II's in 19". I only put about 300 miles per month and when it gets warmer, I put these DR's on the car. That way I can just drive to the strip and it's ready. Not bad for just driving around town (no twisties). Typically get 4-5,000 miles out of them.
If you are serious about tires for strip; these are awesome, even in 19".
ps. I still have the OEM Pirelli's. Next tire will be the Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Soulowd
02-25-2014, 06:07 PM
I wonder if these are the tires he always has on his show room area. Im gonna check em out
DirtyD
02-25-2014, 06:26 PM
1) Just because it fits, doesn't mean it will perform as it was intended to, especially when talking about the sidewall.
2) Running a DR on a stick car is asking for something to break sooner than later.
I don't know many people running the Sport comps, but I can tell you there are plenty of people running the Conti DW that love them, and they are basically a cheaper version of the MPSS.
Soulowd
02-25-2014, 06:31 PM
1) Just because it fits, doesn't mean it will perform as it was intended to, especially when talking about the sidewall.
2) Running a DR on a stick car is asking for something to break sooner than later.
I don't know many people running the Sport comps, but I can tell you there are plenty of people running the Conti DW that love them, and they are basically a cheaper version of the MPSS.
True...I have heard really good things about the Conti DW's plus they have a 50,000 mile rating. That means it should atleast get me to 15k :)
DirtyD
02-25-2014, 06:33 PM
True...I have heard really good things about the Conti DW's plus they have a 50,000 mile rating. That means it should atleast get me to 15k :)
No, you are thinking about the DWS. The DWS is the all season version of the DW. The DW is the summer tire. Michelin is the only company that has a mileage warranty on their summer tire, the Pilot Super Sport. Even then it's a 30k mile warranty, or 15k if you stagger the sizes. They don't warranty summer tires because of the low thread rating, plus some people actually use them to road race on, wearing them down faster.
DallasGator
02-25-2014, 09:51 PM
1) Just because it fits, doesn't mean it will perform as it was intended to, especially when talking about the sidewall.
2) Running a DR on a stick car is asking for something to break sooner than later.
I don't know many people running the Sport comps, but I can tell you there are plenty of people running the Conti DW that love them, and they are basically a cheaper version of the MPSS.
I don't know why my edit didn't go through but I changed my plans:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+S1+noble2&partnum=54WR9H452XL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Ford&autoYear=2013&autoModel=Mustang%20GT%20Coupe&autoModClar=Brembo%20Brakes&tab=Survey
255 front 275 rear.
I've also read an article on what "Summer tire" means. According to the writer, it is basically a tire that can perform in anything but snow/ice. However, there seems to be no rule on how to classify the tire. I just figured a tire with very good reviews AND 500 treadwear is pretty fantastic. I drive 30-40 highway miles a day so I think the extra life will be helpful.
Dominic Toretto
02-26-2014, 11:22 AM
I've got BFG Sport Comp 2 XLs on my car. 255s and 285s. I like them.
-Alex
Brn N Rubr
02-26-2014, 11:50 AM
I love my Continue DW 285/35-19 all around. Quiet, comfortable and improved traction! And reasonably priced!!!
Soulowd
03-06-2014, 12:32 PM
well just bought some Continental extreme contact DW for the stang. should get them in a few days pretty stoked
DirtyD
03-06-2014, 12:53 PM
well just bought some Continental extreme contact DW for the stang. should get them in a few days pretty stoked
You will be happy with them for sure.
5PointSlow
03-11-2014, 02:08 AM
I run 295/30/19 toyo R888s. I wish they came in a 35 or even a 285 but they don't and I was told these tires hook like a mofo. My buddy wasn't lying. They flat hook from a roll on the street. I wasn't home long enough to get them on the track to see how they do there. first gear is fairly useless in my car with them on the street but 2nd is good to go. These tires finally helped kill my stock clutch (its slipping now) so itll be going to truestreet when I get home for a new RXT and dynatech DS.
Crimson600+HP
03-11-2014, 10:23 AM
I decided on the DW's a while back before I even needed another set of tires. My reasoning behind is was there performance/price. Easily the Michelin Pilot Super Sports are the best summer only tire out there, every magazine and reviewer agrees with that statement. They are an industry standard, but they are never on sale and cost a pretty penny.
After the PSS, according to TireRack and other testers, there is a cluttered field of 2nd placers. Pole Position S04's, the Conti DW's, and the others falling behind those two. At that point, it all comes down to which tire has the size you want. Conti's are known for a great road manners tire with decent handling/traction in performance driving. The Pole Position S04's are rated better at handling/traction, but suffer a little more for road manners. All are negligible though unless you are a serious driver. Heck, even pros can barely tell a difference.
Needless to say, right now you can get the Conti DW's for a great price and a free Ion Camcorder (some Go-Pro Type thing) or a $70 credit card bring the price down a little more.
DirtyD
03-11-2014, 12:17 PM
If I can save enough money, my next tire setup, if my plan works as I hope it does, will be a set of Hankook Ventus RS-3s with some 18x10 wheels to go on them.
If not, I will probably just stick with the brembo wheels and get some 285/35/19 Conti DW all around.
re-rx7
03-11-2014, 05:03 PM
Never usnderstood why people pay for grippy low wear tires when they may actually use them the way intended 10% of the time. Not my money but just curious as to why?
DirtyD
03-11-2014, 05:13 PM
When I bought my PSS, I intended to get into AutoX sooner and more often than I have done so. That's because I ended up getting a dog, huge time factor, and other life things took priority. If I could go back, I would've bought other tires, saved some money, and probably still be in the same boat. With that said, I will easily get 20k+ out of these tires, which will be more than the Pirellis, which were roughly the same cost, so I'm coming out on top.
re-rx7
03-11-2014, 05:21 PM
When I bought my PSS, I intended to get into AutoX sooner and more often than I have done so. That's because I ended up getting a dog, huge time factor, and other life things took priority. If I could go back, I would've bought other tires, saved some money, and probably still be in the same boat. With that said, I will easily get 20k+ out of these tires, which will be more than the Pirellis, which were roughly the same cost, so I'm coming out on top.
20k is good for any sport tire IMO. If I can get 20k Im usually happy.
Crimson600+HP
03-11-2014, 05:24 PM
I always thought the same thing. Hence why after I ruined the stock set after 10K hard miles (many drag runs, couple auto-x events, and 6 days of track events, plus the regular driving), I decided to pick up a track dedicated set. Now I run a high performance all season (50K rating) daily and have the set of summer only's as my track set. Cost more up front, but money will be saved as the track set should last 2-3 years at minimum once I start using them. Better than changing every year IMO.
re-rx7
03-11-2014, 05:25 PM
I always thought the same thing. Hence why after I ruined the stock set after 10K hard miles (many drag runs, couple auto-x events, and 6 days of track events, plus the regular driving), I decided to pick up a track dedicated set. Now I run a high performance all season (50K rating) daily and have the set of summer only's as my track set. Cost more up front, but money will be saved as the track set should last 2-3 years at minimum once I start using them. Better than changing every year IMO.
I completely agree with this and I think that is the better idea.
DirtyD
03-11-2014, 06:44 PM
I always thought the same thing. Hence why after I ruined the stock set after 10K hard miles (many drag runs, couple auto-x events, and 6 days of track events, plus the regular driving), I decided to pick up a track dedicated set. Now I run a high performance all season (50K rating) daily and have the set of summer only's as my track set. Cost more up front, but money will be saved as the track set should last 2-3 years at minimum once I start using them. Better than changing every year IMO.
Unfortunately I went backwards. Didn't have the money for a track setup, but wanted something that I could track.
Crimson600+HP
03-11-2014, 07:45 PM
That happens. I just scoured craigslist until I found a cheap set that would work. 2007+ GT500's are great for this. I got mine for $250 bucks with used tires on them. 18x9.5 on all 4 corners that can fit 285 tires. So with tires, I am $1000 into a track set. Not saying everyone should do this, but if you look carefully you can grab deals.
Soulowd
03-22-2014, 01:06 PM
Hey guys I finally got the chance to run the new Conti extreme contact dw last night...they were shit...I played with tire pressure went to 26psi first (terrible), then 25 (a lil better than terrible) any ideas? I have plenty of drag experience so I know how to launch but to get any traction at all I had to basically slowly get into it and couldnt rev at all from launch. I was running consistently in the 12.4's on my stock perellis and last night my best was a 13 flat which is not cool. The track was having a lot of issues last night with spills and I did see several cars even with slicks sliding around but cant be sure. I am running Muscle car challenge on Sunday so need some ideas fast (trying to stay in King Bracket 12.00-12.99) Thanks oh and btw "STEVE" I beat a CTS-V even with a 13 flat lol!
Soulowd
03-22-2014, 01:49 PM
Hmmmm...Im reading some other forums and a lot of people saying on street radial tires not to lower psi at all and to keep them at factory spec 32-35psi. Can anyone shed some light on this???
5PointSlow
03-22-2014, 02:20 PM
I used to lower my non DR nitto 555s to 25psi and that seemed to work well. if the prep was good I could run 10s on them. if not consistent low 11s. street tires on the track are really hit and miss depending on the brand. I am going to take my R888s out once I get back.
DirtyD
03-24-2014, 02:15 PM
You are afterall on a street tire, and the weather was cool Friday night. You aren't doing long burnouts, are you? Avoid the water box and just spin them enough to clean off any debris.
Klownz
03-24-2014, 03:14 PM
I'm running the Nitto NTOS5R 315/35/20. Pretty good tire but not for a DD.
Soulowd
03-24-2014, 03:35 PM
Yeah I took them back to 35psi and they did pretty good. Cant launch on them or they will spin all over the place but If I steadily get into them they were a lot better on Sunday @ Kennedale. Still getting some wheel hop but I ordered lower control arms for that. Really I just need to invest in some Drag Radials and 15" wheels to get optimum grip
DirtyD
03-24-2014, 07:42 PM
Yeah I took them back to 35psi and they did pretty good. Cant launch on them or they will spin all over the place but If I steadily get into them they were a lot better on Sunday @ Kennedale. Still getting some wheel hop but I ordered lower control arms for that. Really I just need to invest in some Drag Radials and 15" wheels to get optimum grip
I can't remember if you are lowered or not. Why not go ahead and get the brackets too?
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