Crimson's 2013 Boy Racer GT

[Crimson600+HP]

I figured I would get on making one of these threads, bragging about what I have done to my car. One thing I have been proud of is that I have done most of the work myself (outside of the ProCharger, tuning, and welding). I originally bought a 2013 V6 Premium Track Package, which I put most of the power adders on but it was never enough power (sorry V6 guys). It is a great car, but now I know just to buy the biggest engine I can afford.

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In February 2013, I traded the V6 in for this beast. 2013 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, 3.31 rear end, with Recaros. All I lost on the trade in was the taxes as I got a good deal on the purchase price and my trade in. Here she is as I bought her.

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The first thing I tackled were the immediate things we all want. A little more growl out of the exhaust and a couple exterior mods to make it our own. Started with Borla S-Type's and some new badges and vinyls.

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Then I signed up for my first every HPDE event with my car as stock as it could be. From there, I got hooked on Road Events and knew the direction I wanted to go with my car. Drag racing was not that much fun to me, doing car shows are too boring, and autocross was too short.

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After this event, I went straight to the suspension. I ripped out everything, shocks/struts, springs, panhard bar/brace, LCA, UCA/UCA bracket, and sway bars. In went, Steeda Pro-Actions, FRPP Springs, Fays2 Watts Link, SVE LCA's, BMR UCA & bracket, and Hotchkis sway bars. After spending a lot of time in the garage under my car, my suspension was near finished. Oh, also threw on a GT500 spoiler.

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The next set of modifications went a little more random. Some appearance, some performance, some just wasting some money and time. Went for some MRT Rear Window Louvers as I think they add a real muscle car vibe to the cars. Also had some custom badges to replace the GT Faux Gas Cap Cover from Billet Badges. Through on a Bama tune cause I got them for free then went to the Dyno.

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After this set of mods, I just started running as many HPDE events as I could, hitting up Motorsport Ranch in Cresson. Replaced my brake fluid to DOT4, added a JLT Brake Cooling Kit, front tow points, and put on some Hawk race pads. Just driving the piss out of it as much as I could. After this, I realized tires are expensive so I picked up an extra set of '05-'09 GT500 wheels that could clear my Brembos. I haven't wrapped them in new rubber, but I am looking at some 285/35/18's here in the near future.

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Then I decided go big or go home. Came across a deal on a ProCharger Stage II P1SC kit with installation and I couldn't let it go. Went into some premature debt, but being boosted has been the best modification I have ever done on any vehicle.

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After that, there has been some small things. But mostly just enjoying her. Right now, I have her in the hands of Jeff Smith out with Central Texas Performance welding in my BMR LCA Relocation Brackets, Roush BAP, and doing a dyno tune to smooth out that safe tune I got from ProCharger. Should be getting her back tomorrow and can't wait to see what the new numbers are for my baby!

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Car recently got a little attention from Steeda as I made it on their Facebook and Google+ pages.

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And here is how she sits before I took her down to CTP. I am sure I missed a lot in the description of my car, but it will eventually come to me. Next will be the new rubber on those older GT500's wheels, along with installing a handheld fire extinguisher bracket as I am prepping to run the Texas Mile next March. Crossing my fingers that I am able to sign up before all the slots are taken up!

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[BV600]

This thing looks familiar! HaHa
Ill be back to work next week, looks like there will be two procharged mustangs in the unit

[03MachMe]

Looking good. I wish I lived anywhere close to any real tracks. I will get out on one soon enough.

[Crimson600+HP]

This thing looks familiar! HaHa
Ill be back to work next week, looks like there will be two procharged mustangs in the unit

Badass. Can't wait to see what you've done since you've been ditching work haha

Looking good. I wish I lived anywhere close to any real tracks. I will get out on one soon enough.

Plenty in Texas, worth the drive.

[BV600]

Badass. Can't wait to see what you've done since you've been ditching work haha



Plenty in Texas, worth the drive.

I may need to borrow you procharger instructions and parts list if you still have it.

[garner]

Looks good! Surprised I haven't spotted you around town

[Crimson600+HP]

I may need to borrow you procharger instructions and parts list if you still have it.

Looked for it brother, but I think I left it in the shop. I'll try to get a digital copy though.

Looks good! Surprised I haven't spotted you around town

I tend to only drive her on Fridays or when I'm out to impress. Next time I take her out will probably be on the 31st when Little River starts Friday night drags again.

[Crimson600+HP]

Got her back last night. Everything went smooth and I am very impressed with the driveability and power that was made.

Here is my baseline run. TQ numbers were off for some reason, but you can see the graph.
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And here is where I ended. Jeff did some great work and I'm very pleased with the outcome.
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[El_Tortuga]

Flat torque curve. Nice

[Crimson600+HP]

The torque is definitely nice, but the linear power is very smooth and great. This thing really flies now and is very predictable. ProChargers canned tune was very safe and the driveability of it on anything besides WOT was untolerable.

[Crimson600+HP]

Everything is back up, operating as normal.

New additions to the car include some sponsor-esque stickers (added 50 HP right there) on the front quarter panels and a new coolant cap as mine seems to leak a little.

Purchased a set of 285/35/18 Continental DW's for the upcoming race season to put on my used 2009 GT500 wheels. Excited to get those on as that is some signicant meat on each corner compared to the 255/40/19 Pirellis that I tore through in one year. Also needed a Y or higher rated tire for the TX Mile.

Car won't be seeing much daily driving anymore though, unless it is to shows that are local. Picked up a new 18' trailer to take her to and from race events that way I always have a way of getting back home if something were to break again.

Once everything is prepped and up, I will be sure to put some pictures on here describing the car and my first experience at the mile.

[Crimson600+HP]

Car is now ready to go. Put the new wheels on today & they are definately rough looking up close. However, they fit and the tires work great. Did a couple test runs at Little Rover today practicing easy launches for The Texas Mile and everything is running top notch. Tires are now worn a little where they are actually hooking up as much as a street tire can and the DSS Aluminum DS worked great with no unwarranted vibrations. Outside of our Mustangs (lack of) aerodynamics, I feel ready.

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Ended up purchasing an auto hauler also to trailer the Mustang to and from events that are further away then a couple hour drive. Makes it easier to bring my own tools, comfort items, and support if something were to go wrong. EZ-Up, chairs, coolers, Razor Scooter, generator, fuel cans, and everything else is organized and ready to put in the truck once I load up. Now it is a waiting game.

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[DirtyD]

Awesome. Good luck man. What are you hoping to hit? 180?

[BV600]

oOoOoooo nice trailer, I may need a tow here soon :-)

[Crimson600+HP]

Awesome. Good luck man. What are you hoping to hit? 180?

Realistically I am hoping to be in the 170s, if I am there on the second day I will be happy. Pick feel the first time is a learning experience and I want to gather as much info as I can pertaining to aerodynamics in order to maximize the horsepower I have now.

oOoOoooo nice trailer, I may need a tow here soon :-)

Just let me know, I can probably do it as long as he timing is good.

[El_Tortuga]

Realistically I am hoping to be in the 170s, if I am there on the second day I will be happy. Pick feel the first time is a learning experience and I want to gather as much info as I can pertaining to aerodynamics in order to maximize the horsepower I have now.



Just let me know, I can probably do it as long as he timing is good.

Other than ditching the mirrors, wing, and any other obvious drag items, isn't it mostly about keeping from piling up air under the hood? i.e. Taping/blocking up the front, leading edges, and/or helping vent it out.

I'm assuming that you can tape up a bunch of grill opening and still not have a cooling issue for a single blast?

Go fast, have fun, take pics, and don't break anything.

[Hagen3great]

How do ya like the new tires with that power? I'm about to get a set and thought about the PSS but it seems the conti DW are a better bang for the buck.

awesome setup btw! Kcco!

[Crimson600+HP]

Other than ditching the mirrors, wing, and any other obvious drag items, isn't it mostly about keeping from piling up air under the hood? i.e. Taping/blocking up the front, leading edges, and/or helping vent it out.

I'm assuming that you can tape up a bunch of grill opening and still not have a cooling issue for a single blast?

Go fast, have fun, take pics, and don't break anything.

The first day I plan on running the car as is. No tape, no take offs or weight reduction, and my daily tune. I want to see what the car can do "stock" as it sits. Once I get a feel for the speed, launch, and as many of the other factors that I can, I will start playing with some things. Right now, I have the tape to tape off gaps and the ability to put my race tune on to eek out a couple more MPH's so I have room to improve on the second day. I am sure my first run in the morning on the second day will be my fastest so that is when I am going to tape and retune the vehicle. I'll be sure to take pics and video, just may take me a while to get everything uploaded but I will.

How do ya like the new tires with that power? I'm about to get a set and thought about the PSS but it seems the conti DW are a better bang for the buck.

awesome setup btw! Kcco!

Thanks for the compliments. As far as the new tires, they are great. Many guys run a staggered set up with similar sized rear tires (285's) and they hook well. I run a square set up as I track it and it provides me predicatable cornering along with the ability to do a proper 4 tire rotation. I have no fitment issues either up front with my 1" drop, so 285/35/18's will fit no problem with +42 offset. The DW's hook well, but the PSS are the best in the business. So if you can swing the extra cash, get the PSS, but if you are wanting to save a couple hundred (the conti DW's have a $70 rebate or free go-pro like camera deal right now) on the purchase price of the tires, go with the Conti DW's.

I will have a more in depth review of these tires after this event as far as straight line traction. Come 17 May, I will have an even better review for their on track handling as I signed up to run Texas World Speedway again before I leave Texas this summer. Who knows, maybe the last time I ever get to run the track if they close it down.

[DirtyD]

Are you going to use only tape to block off? I would try to use as much cardboard as possible. It will be stronger against the wind pressures. Make sure you leave the brake ducts open though, because you will need them for slowing down. lol

Also, if it were me, I would at least leave a little portion of the grill uncovered so you have a feed of fresh air coming into the intake box.

[Crimson600+HP]

I have some precut cardboard for the upper and lower grills, but I only plan on using one at a time if I decide to tape off. Realistically I am doing this just to have hard evidence I went fast. Depending on the adrenaline rush, I may start working hard on aero with the tape if I decode this is something I want to do more in the future.

[Crimson600+HP]

Well this weekend was fun. The fun got cut short Sunday & I wasn't able to take advantage of the tailwind, cool morning weather, and my 93 race tune in efforts to hit my 170+ MPH goal. This was my prepped vehicle for that mornings run before the rain screwed us all.

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Here were my final results from day one. No aero mods, just my daily tune and a heavy foot. These were all with easy launches, rolling off the line getting into the throttle after I was over 25 MPH. I made my qualification run at 153 cruising, then posted two runs before the day was done within 0.1 MPH of each other showing I was consistent through the mile. Here is my top run.

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Oh well, that's racing. Here are some of the photos I was able to take while I was out there. There was a ton of cool cars, but time was limited for me and most of the fast guys didn't attempt runs that could break or get close to the record.

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[garner]

Nice run! Sucks about the bipolar Texas weather though

Not sure if my dentist made it down to this one

[DirtyD]

Awesome! Congrats man.

That Shelby though...weird...

[Crimson600+HP]

Nice run! Sucks about the bipolar Texas weather though

Well, that is racing though. What upset me was bikers complaining during the drivers meeting before we attempted to run on Sunday. Many just wanted to hear their own voices I guess when the track marshall stated it was still too dangerous for bikes to run, but as the cars warmed the track they would open it back up to bikes. Losing 15 minutes there prevented about 15 cars from going (which I was in line to make it).

I may try an event like this again though, but depending on where I am at in the country will dictate where I do it. I want to try the Mojave Mile and Mile and a Half event they have out there in California.

Awesome! Congrats man.

That Shelby though...weird...

The Shelby was great looking in person in my opinion . Black with painted gold stripes is a good color combo. Surprised on the turnout this year. Once again, mostly American Muscle cars. A couple Euro cars were there (Porsche 911's, Aventador, VW Golf, BMW M's, Mercedes AMG's), but the Asian car showing was slim to nil. Outside of a couple GTR's (the RX-7.0 doesn't count with the LS7 under the hood), there was only one Nissan 240SX that made a couple runs but didn't do anything spectacular.

[El_Tortuga]

Sucks about the weather, but glad the car ran well.

[Pewter Lurch]

Your fuckin car is shweet! I love gold on red. Before the mustang I had a '99 red T/A with c5 bronze magnesium 17/18s and I absolutely loved them with red.
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[El_Tortuga]

Your fuckin car is shweet! I love gold on red. Before the mustang I had a '99 red T/A with c5 bronze magnesium 17/18s and I absolutely loved them with red.
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Bonus if you post a pic of your mullet. ;)

[Crimson600+HP]

Bonus if you post a pic of your mullet. ;)

Truth on the mullet. Double the points.

Your fuckin car is shweet! I love gold on red. Before the mustang I had a '99 red T/A with c5 bronze magnesium 17/18s and I absolutely loved them with red.
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Thanks for the compliments. My car has always been function and speed, over looks and bling. I've been telling everyone gold/bronze is going to be the next color of wheels that is going to take over the car scene. This "murdered" out, all black look is getting old that everyone seems to be running. No offense to anyone running black wheels of course...

[Pewter Lurch]

Im picking up some gloss black gt500 wheels sunday that will be getting grey powder coating done. Have a good friend that does it he just told me to find the color I want and he will order it and coat them.

[Crimson600+HP]

Im picking up some gloss black gt500 wheels sunday that will be getting grey powder coating done. Have a good friend that does it he just told me to find the color I want and he will order it and coat them.

Grey is always a solid choice. For these extra wheels I have I just wanted a little more in your face. I really love the way gold looks though every since Subie's have been sporting them on that blue.

In other notes, Lethal Performance Inc. sported my photo on their Facebook page. That makes Steeda and Lethal Performance now! Getting exposure I guess is always good. If only they would give me a larger discount lol.

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[Crimson600+HP]

Car parts starting to come in for the splitter install along with my faux gas cap badges after having to get redone. Hopefully all the parts in tomorrow and install this weekend if this wedding I'm in gets in the way lol.

For those not in the centex area, we had a hailstorm last Friday and my garage door was broken. Ended up with a little damage on the roof and rear decklid, couldn't really see on the hood but I'd imagine there is some there too. Hopefully insurance comes through and cuts me a nice check. I don't care about the dents, they aren't that noticeable. Maybe a Tiger Racing carbon fiber hood in the future.

[Crimson600+HP]

Started today (despite the shitty weather) on my splitter-for-cheap install. Loved the LS one, but can't seem spending all that money for a few pounds of downforce. Anyways, here is my part list.

Splitter:
Stillen Splitter KB417214

Turnbuckles:
Longarcre Spoiler Brace x2 LON23708 (replacing the Stillen ones as these are beefier)
Longacre Backing Disk x2 LON23702

To Connect Turnbuckles to Car:
4" Mending Braces from Lowes x2
#8 Metal Screws x4

Additional Materials:
1"x1/4" washers for the screws holding the splitter to the car (parts bag doesn't come with any)

Progress Made on 06 April:

Today I had to figure out how to mount these turnbuckles on. The stock ones work well according to the Stillen reps, but I did not feel like drilling into my bumper in order to brace the splitter. I ended up drilling into my tow point brace versus into the bumper support like one member on SVTP did (who I stole most of this build from). Now that I got those in, fitted to the splitter after I mocked it up.

Later this week, I plan on actually securing the splitter to the car. Just need some help from my roommate as it takes a little finagling with some 3M tape. Here is some pics of the progress so far. To me, this was the hardest part as you have to find a place on the car that would be strong enough to hold the force created by the downforce.

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[Crimson600+HP]

Part two:

So the instructions are really vague. There are supposed to be holes that line up, but they really take some muscle to get them in. Simple as cleaning the stock lip, sticking on the new one, then screwing in the three points on each side along with installing the turnbuckles that I put in yesterday.

Additionally, I used some of the leftover screws to drill into the old lip virtually fusing the two together with 5 more screws. Either way, this thing is pretty solid and would have no problem holding up to speed.

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[BV600]

Love it, now I'm considering one...

I see why someone wasn't at work today lol.

[Crimson600+HP]

Love it, now I'm considering one...

I see why someone wasn't at work today lol.

Ha, it only took a couple hours to put on. Spread the build over a couple days...proving I was at work today. Can't help it I was in school.

Only thing I advise is finding a place to mount the turnbuckles. I had to drill into the tow point bracket that I have in the car, just because it was the only place it fit on my car. The stock ones aren't too bad actually & are definitely usable. Just need to be painted black so it matches a little better.

[Crimson600+HP]

New photos.

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[garner]

That color of wheels with red looks really good

[DirtyD]

Muy bueno

[Crimson600+HP]

Well, everything seems to be ready to go. Today the car was solid driving it around to work and town. I don't think controlling the temperature of everything (brakes, coolant, engine, tires, etc) will pose no problems. As temps are heating up, everything seems to be getting better, outside of engine temps running a couple high.

Today, I focused on getting all the support stuff ready. Extra fluids loaded, extra brake pads, tools, trailer prepped, truck prepped, etc. Race season is surely a busy one.

Ended up making new ramps to help out the trailer and ride height of my car. The 5 foot ramps off the trailer with the dovetail doesn't seem to be enough to prevent my splitter from scrapping. Ended up using one 2x12x10 boards, cut at lengths of 4', 3', 2', & 1' in which the trailer ramps will sit on top of. Also will allow me to drive my car on ramps at the track instead of always using my jack.

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Almost forgot how my truck looks when it is clean. Added a little ProCharger bling to the trailer also. If I'd only bought the 5.7L Tundra I would also have an Eaton SC from the factory on that thing too!

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[Crimson600+HP]

Outside of the overheating issue, car ran great once I was able to control the temperatures by watching throttle and improved airflow. Here are some of my favorite pictures from the weekend.

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[Pewter Lurch]

All I think about when I see this picture!

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[Crimson600+HP]

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This is the picture I think of actually when I saw that picture.

Actually though, the guy driving that car is a legitimate driver competing in NASA classes. Plus the car is a fully build race car with some type of motor swap. That session was during the Free-For-All hour at the end of the day which allowed every driving class to be on the track at the same time. Passing rules were "anywhere you can make it with a point by."

Anything in the twisties he had a huge advantage with driver skill, weight, brakes, and tires (he had slicks and I was on summer-only street tires). On the straights though I would of course dominate. Looking at lap times, he would still best me by a little this event. I imagine in time I would surpass him, but in the end that car/driver combo was good.

[Pewter Lurch]

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This is the picture I think of actually when I saw that picture.

Actually though, the guy driving that car is a legitimate driver competing in NASA classes. Plus the car is a fully build race car with some type of motor swap. That session was during the Free-For-All hour at the end of the day which allowed every driving class to be on the track at the same time. Passing rules were "anywhere you can make it with a point by."

Anything in the twisties he had a huge advantage with driver skill, weight, brakes, and tires (he had slicks and I was on summer-only street tires). On the straights though I would of course dominate. Looking at lap times, he would still best me by a little this event. I imagine in time I would surpass him, but in the end that car/driver combo was good.

Nice. I do like your homemade ramps. Was looking into ramps but damn they are expensive.

[Crimson600+HP]

They work great and only cost me about $25 in wood and glue. Home Depot did all the cutting for me. Serve a dual purpose as I can use them to get on and off the trailer and also to work on the car itself.

[El_Tortuga]

I'd like to see the splitter struts a little more vertical to be more effective and lower stress, but it should work as long as the mounts are solid enough.

Nice pics. I love the gold rims. How much does the brake dust show? I went with silver track wheels and that was a mistake. They look like ass with brake dust, and the Hawk pads generate a bunch.

[Crimson600+HP]

Truth in the turnbuckles. Placement like that is difficult unless you are willing to drill through bumpers to achieve optimal angles. Where they are at now though is really sold as they are connected to my tow point bracket/frame. These things don't move at all and I can still adjust the length on them.

Everyone gives me compliments on the wheels, not bad for spray paint and $200 GT500 take-offs. I don't have a picture, but the dust is pretty bad on my wheels. Almost black on some of the areas. Can't avoid it once you go with these aggressive pads on the track. Just part of the game I guess.

[Crimson600+HP]

Well, on the 50th Anniversary I got my Boss 302S grille in from a track buddy. He told me it was pretty much new and that I could have it for $200. As long as it wasn't damaged, i was fine with it. As I cut the factory plastic off I realized that this thing is brand spanking new, so it was a hell of a deal. Hopefully this will help with improve the airflow to that radiator!

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If somebody needs or wants my original grille or fog lights, let me know. I will let them go for cheap.

[my95z28]

Looks great! So much better without the red pony in the middle.

[DirtyD]

That looks great!!

[PCB]

I like the silver in the lower valence. What is it?

[Crimson600+HP]

Looks great! So much better without the red pony in the middle.

I actually liked the red pony, especially on the track where it would stick out from the rest if the Muatang pack (either chrome stock or the oh-so-common blacked out pony.

That looks great!!

Thanks!

I like the silver in the lower valence. What is it?

JLT Brake Duct kit. Outside of making one yourself, they are the cheapest on the market.

[Crimson600+HP]

Radiator finally installed, leaving a little chrome now under the hood. Forced me to change some things under the hood, but everything seems to be working right. Also got my Peterson catch can installed.

Will get some pictures tomorrow, especially if I make the dyno run.

[Crimson600+HP]

So, made two sessions of TWS before the car called it quits. The first time, the stability control kept getting in the way as I thought I turned it off but it was partially on. Wasn't able to test the cooling capabilities as I was only able to go about 60% as high speed cornering is not fun with nannies on.

The second run I was able to go all out, improving my fastest lap time at TWS to a 2:07. Downside, still overheating and went into limp mode at the 20 minute point. Came back into the pits and car was running real rich. Reflashed the computer and then through another general misfire code, along with cylinders 6 & 8. Last time this happened it was the crankshaft position sensor needing to be reset. Vehicle runs like shit during that time so I wasn't risking it.

So, besides lighting a pile of money on fire, I think this idea of a supercharged road race car is a failure. I believe it is possible with the right funding, but I don't have that money. So instead of throwing more at it, I am going to remove the ProCharger. It's a great kit, great power, and performed well on the street and strip. Heck, with the larger radiator my internal temps were amazing. However, keeping an engine above 5000 rpm with a blower on it for 20+ minutes is actually slowing me down from progressing.

Future plans now. Staying naturally aspirated, going with a Cobra Jet manifold, switching from 3.31's to a 3.73 rear end, going to run E85, and probably going to an OR X pipe. That way I can still have a leg up on stock-ish 5.0s, but still be able to keep internal temps on over time. So if y'all are interested in a P1SC Stage 2 tuner kit with about 4000 miles on the track and street (I have an extra SCT tuner that isn't married), let me know. It's still on the car, but I maybe willing to let it go to a member for a better price.

[BV600]

I want to try that quiet bypass valve atleast once lol. Plus side is HEB E85 is still testing higher, E90 yesterday

[donutninja]

Are you still running the stock fan?

[El_Tortuga]

So, made two sessions of TWS before the car called it quits. The first time, the stability control kept getting in the way as I thought I turned it off but it was partially on. Wasn't able to test the cooling capabilities as I was only able to go about 60% as high speed cornering is not fun with nannies on.

The second run I was able to go all out, improving my fastest lap time at TWS to a 2:07. Downside, still overheating and went into limp mode at the 20 minute point. Came back into the pits and car was running real rich. Reflashed the computer and then through another general misfire code, along with cylinders 6 & 8. Last time this happened it was the crankshaft position sensor needing to be reset. Vehicle runs like shit during that time so I wasn't risking it.

So, besides lighting a pile of money on fire, I think this idea of a supercharged road race car is a failure. I believe it is possible with the right funding, but I don't have that money. So instead of throwing more at it, I am going to remove the ProCharger. It's a great kit, great power, and performed well on the street and strip. Heck, with the larger radiator my internal temps were amazing. However, keeping an engine above 5000 rpm with a blower on it for 20+ minutes is actually slowing me down from progressing.

Future plans now. Staying naturally aspirated, going with a Cobra Jet manifold, switching from 3.31's to a 3.73 rear end, going to run E85, and probably going to an OR X pipe. That way I can still have a leg up on stock-ish 5.0s, but still be able to keep internal temps on over time. So if y'all are interested in a P1SC Stage 2 tuner kit with about 4000 miles on the track and street (I have an extra SCT tuner that isn't married), let me know. It's still on the car, but I maybe willing to let it go to a member for a better price.

I don't know what to say, sucks to ditch the big power, but kind of confirms I'm on the right path. My only engine mod is a K&N filter and axlebacks. LOL.
I was curious where you were headed as the big power would seem to put even more strain on the brakes and tires and the rest of the drivetrain.

IF I ever go hardcore, it will be to take weight out of the car and stay with mild(reliable) engine. Low weight just can't be overstated. Coyote in a light car would rock, e.g. a boss crate motor in something sub 3K lbs would be a killer combo.

[Crimson600+HP]

Are you still running the stock fan?

I could get a better fan, but I have lost faith in cheaper modifications that will help this issue. The car is completely fine on the street or strip even before I change things in effort of cooling. But in my opinion it won't be worth the money.

I don't know what to say, sucks to ditch the big power, but kind of confirms I'm on the right path. My only engine mod is a K&N filter and axlebacks. LOL.
I was curious where you were headed as the big power would seem to put even more strain on the brakes and tires and the rest of the drivetrain.

IF I ever go hardcore, it will be to take weight out of the car and stay with mild(reliable) engine. Low weight just can't be overstated. Coyote in a light car would rock, e.g. a boss crate motor in something sub 3K lbs would be a killer combo.

I think big power can be had with these cars and survive the track. I am just nit willing to throw the $$$ at it in order to make it happen. If I were to go SC over again, I would try a VMP kit as they built it for open lapping so maybe it would perform better. But after experiencing it, I will cut my loses and go with what will work...not what may work.

I am not bitter about my decision, I tried it and loved this procharger. Heck, I wish I was a drag racer or a "show queen car" as this kit would be perfect for those applications. But for open lapping, it just isn't working for me. For the NA setup I am going for, 450 RWHP is definately doable.

[Crimson600+HP]

So, made the decision today for sure to go natural aspirated again. Ordered from Tasca Parts, Cobra Jet Intake, FRPP Cobra Jet CAI, 3.73 Geara, and 2013 Stock GT500 Twin 60mm throttle body with associated install kits. Soon I will begin to start taking off the ProCharger which I will be looking to sell (minus the injectors) as basically a tuner kit. Shame I only put about 5k miles on the kit, but it just isn't going to work for the road course.

So, the build continues...just have to look for an off road H/X pipe for cheap.

[garner]

I have a used lethal offroad h in the garage that I'm about to put up for sale

[Crimson600+HP]

Ah, I picked one up cheap yesterday getting shipped to me. I know you didn't like the sound, but you were running it without mufflers right?

I have a Borla S Types on my car currently, which I know this setup will be loud. Eventually once I get it all put together I will probably go to a cheaper GT500 muffler to quiet it down.

[garner]

I ran it without mufflers and with stock mufflers. Without mufflers I loved the sound but around 2000 rpm it would drone while accelerating, and around 80 it would drone for me also. Other than that it was fine.

With stock mufflers, it wasn't much louder than with cats.

[Crimson600+HP]

I ran it without mufflers and with stock mufflers. Without mufflers I loved the sound but around 2000 rpm it would drone while accelerating, and around 80 it would drone for me also. Other than that it was fine.

With stock mufflers, it wasn't much louder than with cats.

That's good to know. I know that the O/R X and H pipes both increase the loudness of the exhaust system (which I am not entirely going for) which is why I will be eventually taking off my Borla S-Types. Granted, I will drive it around and be obnoxious for a little until I get tired of the constant noise. Once that happens, I will grab a set of GT500's to quiet the girl down a little.

[DirtyD]

If you want to go O/R midpipe, but stay quiet, GT500s or factory axlebacks will be your best bet, while replacing the factory resonators with a 3" bullet style muffler

[DirtyD]

Here is my setup.

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[Crimson600+HP]

Thanks for the sound clips. I have had a long tube header with o/r pipe before and it lasted about a week before I couldn't take it. I just want the extra power bump since I'm taking the procharger off. NA I will need every cheap power adder I can get, but I don't want to make the car unbearable to drive. To me, the only choice is GT500.

[DirtyD]

Look for a set of the mini cobra jet cams. Full VCT adjustment and a good bump in TQ

[garner]

Saw you over by Jason's deli earlier. Looks really good in person

[Crimson600+HP]

Yeah, that was after a faithful visit to the Ford Dealer. Blew a couple rings in CYL 7 & 8, so another rebuild is on the way for this guy. I create too much heat on the road course, short bursts and daily driving this thing is a dream, but for what I do forced injection isn't easy to make liveable.

Cars going into the shop to remove the ProCharger, add the CJ Intake Manifold, Boss 302S Air-to-Oil Oil Cooler, new radiator fan, and some 3.73's in order to make the NA setup easier to deal with on the road course. Will be loosing and missing the top speed capability of the SC, but I am looking for reliability over the long term.

[El_Tortuga]

Yeah, that was after a faithful visit to the Ford Dealer. Blew a couple rings in CYL 7 & 8, so another rebuild is on the way for this guy. I create too much heat on the road course, short bursts and daily driving this thing is a dream, but for what I do forced injection isn't easy to make liveable.

Cars going into the shop to remove the ProCharger, add the CJ Intake Manifold, Boss 302S Air-to-Oil Oil Cooler, new radiator fan, and some 3.73's in order to make the NA setup easier to deal with on the road course. Will be loosing and missing the top speed capability of the SC, but I am looking for reliability over the long term.

Yikes!!!

[DirtyD]

Dang man. That sucks to hear, but hopefully this will be the final one. Haha.

Have you thought about trying to find some of the mini cobra jet cams and mayb do TSS Billet oil pump gears while it's apart?

[Crimson600+HP]

Yeah, this time blowing the engine was my fault. I ran it on the track, was flirting the line with the cylinder dead temps trying to balance the performance/overheating line. Moments later, I saw the gauge pegged and I immediately started to cool down. Too late, smoke coming out the rear. I am hoping the last time too. If I didn't have so much money in this car I probably would have fixed it and traded it in on a Camaro 1LE and called it a day. Replace the oil pump with some billet gears and that LS is good to go.

[Grandpa]

Yeah, this time blowing the engine was my fault. I ran it on the track, was flirting the line with the cylinder dead temps trying to balance the performance/overheating line. Moments later, I saw the gauge pegged and I immediately started to cool down. Too late, smoke coming out the rear. I am hoping the last time too. If I didn't have so much money in this car I probably would have fixed it and traded it in on a Camaro 1LE and called it a day. Replace the oil pump with some billet gears and that LS is good to go.

Sorry to hear about your luck. Unfortunately, these Coyote motors just don't like a lot of power. Anyone making over 550rw should be planning for a motor build. It's not IF it breaks, but when. And even with a built motor, the blocks are still very questionable at best. For big power, these cars need a very expensive full build up.

[DirtyD]

Sorry to hear about your luck. Unfortunately, these Coyote motors just don't like a lot of power. Anyone making over 550rw should be planning for a motor build. It's not IF it breaks, but when. And even with a built motor, the blocks are still very questionable at best. For big power, these cars need a very expensive full build up.
People have held the blocks to 1000hp levels without much issue.

[Grandpa]

People have held the blocks to 1000hp levels without much issue.

Just because a few people have made 1xxxhp for a couple of dyno pulls and then turn them back down for normal driving conditions doesn't prove anything. Kevin and I spoke with a couple of Ford engineers at SEMA about this and they admit the factory block isn't up to the task over anything 550rw+.

The fact is, the blocks are not up to the task of that much power on a regular basis and many, many people breaking them at 600rw on a normal basis only further proves that point. And honestly, it shouldn't be up to that because it wasn't designed for that, it's just that us car guys push the limits of our factory set ups beyond their designed for limits.

The motors are very light, very efficient, making great power for only 302 cubic inches. They are great for N/A sub 550rw power, no doubt about that. But anything more than that you are asking for a blown motor.

[DirtyD]

Just because a few people have made 1xxxhp for a couple of dyno pulls and then turn them back down for normal driving conditions doesn't prove anything. Kevin and I spoke with a couple of Ford engineers at SEMA about this and they admit the factory block isn't up to the task over anything 550rw+.

The fact is, the blocks are not up to the task of that much power on a regular basis and many, many people breaking them at 600rw on a normal basis only further proves that point. And honestly, it shouldn't be up to that because it wasn't designed for that, it's just that us car guys push the limits of our factory set ups beyond their designed for limits.

The motors are very light, very efficient, making great power for only 302 cubic inches. They are great for N/A sub 550rw power, no doubt about that. But anything more than that you are asking for a blown motor.
Are we talking the actual block or the internals? The internals are the weak spot that I have seen.

[Grandpa]

Are we talking the actual block or the internals? The internals are the weak spot that I have seen.

Both are weak really. Well, I mean that relatively. Don't get me wrong, it's a great high winding lil motor. I just mean that it's not the best choice if you're wanting to make big power. If you're happy with 550rw or less for a toy, then a stock motor'd 5.0 is fine. But, if you're wanting to go fast, a motor build is in your future with a sleeved block at the minimum. Hopefully at some point someone makes an aftermarket block that is able to handle big power because what is out there now is still breaking the same way factory blocks are.

[DirtyD]

Both are weak really. Well, I mean that relatively. Don't get me wrong, it's a great high winding lil motor. I just mean that it's not the best choice if you're wanting to make big power. If you're happy with 550rw or less for a toy, then a stock motor'd 5.0 is fine. But, if you're wanting to go fast, a motor build is in your future with a sleeved block at the minimum. Hopefully at some point someone makes an aftermarket block that is able to handle big power because what is out there now is still breaking the same way factory blocks are.
I guess I haven't really seen to block failures, just when people throw a rod, melt or shatter a piston. I completely agree with it eventually being on borrowed time, but I guess it seems you are exaggerating (from my view point) that time period to be rather quick, when in fact people have been running those high horsepower (500-600) applications for years now. VMP with their Boss, for example. 7xx whp and it's been through multiple track days in Texas and Florida heat.

I know the only true aftermarket option out there for a "high" power motor is MMR's Promod block, of which some people are still skeptical of their stuff sometimes. But it's been filled, sleeved, and decked completely, so I'd hope it holds. lol

[Grandpa]

I guess I haven't really seen to block failures, just when people throw a rod, melt or shatter a piston. I completely agree with it eventually being on borrowed time, but I guess it seems you are exaggerating (from my view point) that time period to be rather quick, when in fact people have been running those high horsepower (500-600) applications for years now. VMP with their Boss, for example. 7xx whp and it's been through multiple track days in Texas and Florida heat.

I know the only true aftermarket option out there for a "high" power motor is MMR's Promod block, of which some people are still skeptical of their stuff sometimes. But it's been filled, sleeved, and decked completely, so I'd hope it holds. lol

I'm not exaggerating. I guess in your world, if you don't see it, it doesn't happen? I've seen several failures, but then again I'm around a lot of cars making real power and you're not.

Your viewpoint comes from a slow stock car, you don't race, never had a fast car and take everything you read online as facts. Before you do your usual kneejerk sensitive reaction, that's not a dig at you, just the facts. Get out and do some racing, you will see the failures happening. Most people only post the positives online to brag, but the failures rarely make it because of all the bashing that takes place. Failures happen, it's part of racing. Not a big deal.

Again, just because a car "can" make 600-700rw, doesn't mean it's going to last. Any Coyote out there making 550rw+, especially in power adder applications, are on borrowed time. Hell, that's normal tactic of some companies out there - turn it up for one Hail Mary dyno pull, make a number, inflate and tell everyone some stupid outrageous claim. "1000hp on stock motor!!" LOL, I'm sure it did...but not very many times and/or very long. hahaha.

[DirtyD]

I'm just speaking from what I've been able to gather online with forums and through other individuals. SVTP has quite a few blown motors posted there, but majority of those are always internal failures and not the block, at least the ones I have seen. You are right that you have probably seen more than I have. But I didn't say that they don't exist because I haven't seen any. Just saying I haven't seen any.

However, I disagree with the statement I take everything online as facts. I just restate what I have read and gathered online myself and what others have told me. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Someone will correct me and I will learn something new.

If I took everything online as facts, my car would have 12 electric turbochargers in my intake along with 6 stacked switch chips from Jet and a throttle body spacer. :p

[Grandpa]

If I took everything online as facts, my car would have 12 electric turbochargers in my intake along with 6 stacked switch chips from Jet and a throttle body spacer. :p

Ain't that the damn truth!

[DirtyD]

You should see the crap young kids put on the truck pages about that stuff...I seriously want to murder them

[Grandpa]

You should see the crap young kids put on the truck pages about that stuff...I seriously want to murder them

LOL, now you know how I feel. ;)

[El_Tortuga]

Again, just because a car "can" make 600-700rw, doesn't mean it's going to last. Any Coyote out there making 550rw+, especially in power adder applications, are on borrowed time. Hell, that's normal tactic of some companies out there - turn it up for one Hail Mary dyno pull, make a number, inflate and tell everyone some stupid outrageous claim. "1000hp on stock motor!!" LOL, I'm sure it did...but not very many times and/or very long. hahaha.

Sounds like the Ford guys quotes when the GT 500 came out. Something to the effect that making the power is easy, making it last is hard.