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Dominic Toretto
11-16-2013, 12:13 PM
Now of course not, looking to build up the performance now with the car but just pondering. Is it possible to build my car to be a mid to high 11second 1/4 naturally aspirated and still have some decent liveability with regards to it being a street car on 93 octane? I saw that a stage 3 cam car makes just over 500 to the wheels, which is the same as a stock ZR1 dynos so that is like a 50% increase in power without a blower. Pretty damn respectable I my book. But I assume that is really pushing the limits of it being something you can enjoy for a commuter car. Thanks for any input guys, hope everyone is having a good weekend. Going to hit the weights now.

-Alex

Midnight11
11-16-2013, 12:20 PM
U can get high 11s with tune midpipe and wheels and tires

kdanner
11-16-2013, 12:21 PM
Not only is it realistic, it's very easy. You don't need to do anything to the engine at all.

Off road pipe, converter, Roush upper control arm, good wheels/tires at the track, good calibration. Goal met, you'll run 11s in any weather.

When wbt first got his auto car, I did a calibration and he had wheels/tires only. It was good weather, but it went 11.88 with nothing more than that.

Grandpa
11-16-2013, 12:34 PM
U can get high 11s with tune midpipe and wheels and tires

This. I've already done it my last outing to the track and that was on 20 inch DR's with nothing more than a hpipe, axleback and a tune.

re-rx7
11-16-2013, 01:08 PM
Agree with all this.

Dominic Toretto
11-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Should have clarified. Not sure if by wheels and tires, you mean a drag only setup. I mean being to run these times on 100% street wheels and tires.

-Alex

re-rx7
11-16-2013, 02:00 PM
Thats all determined by traction and the driver mod.

Grandpa
11-16-2013, 03:15 PM
Should have clarified. Not sure if by wheels and tires, you mean a drag only setup. I mean being to run these times on 100% street wheels and tires.

-Alex

As I said, I did it on the 20's I street drive on.

Dan12GT
11-16-2013, 05:43 PM
As stated very very doable. I am trapping 11 second mph I just need the wheels/tires to help me get there. I am catback and Airaid intake, stock tune by the way.

Oxford14Stang
11-16-2013, 09:44 PM
if you can't, sell it and buy a c6 z06 lol

Dominic Toretto
11-16-2013, 10:10 PM
As I said, I did it on the 20's I street drive on.

Cot damn. I've seen several reviews and acceleration tests put these cars just under 13sec 1/4 miles. I'm guessing the cars doing that are the ones with 3.73 gears. Mines an auto so it won't be as fast as you guys with the better gearing. So I am thinking I would need a little more than a tune and mid pipe.

As stated very very doable. I am trapping 11 second mph I just need the wheels/tires to help me get there. I am catback and Airaid intake, stock tune by the way.

What mph?

if you can't, sell it and buy a c6 z06 lol

LOL I'd add the car, not trade though.

Dan12GT
11-16-2013, 10:12 PM
112-113

garner
11-17-2013, 02:41 AM
Cot damn. I've seen several reviews and acceleration tests put these cars just under 13sec 1/4 miles. I'm guessing the cars doing that are the ones with 3.73 gears. Mines an auto so it won't be as fast as you guys with the better gearing. So I am thinking I would need a little more than a tune and mid pipe.



What mph?



LOL I'd add the car, not trade though.

Think a stock auto over on svtp did the 1/4 in the mid 12 second range @111 or 112ish. Insane!

Dan12GT
11-17-2013, 01:22 PM
Think a stock auto over on svtp did the 1/4 in the mid 12 second range @111 or 112ish. Insane!

I believe that 100%

03MachMe
11-17-2013, 08:50 PM
Think a stock auto over on svtp did the 1/4 in the mid 12 second range @111 or 112ish. Insane!
I have only axle backs and my tires are just as crappy as stock with a road race spring and ran 12.6@111 so it's very doable

toomnymods
11-18-2013, 06:03 AM
going to the track on stock tires and stock LCA's is a waste of time if you have a stick.. I couldnt get better than a 2.2 60' no matter what I did. So instead of beating around the bush I'm pretty much upgrading every piece of my stock suspension to BMR cause if you cant get a good 60' your just wasting your time dragracing..
Tires and rims will be next.. :)

Dominic Toretto
11-18-2013, 09:18 AM
going to the track on stock tires and stock LCA's is a waste of time if you have a stick.. I couldnt get better than a 2.2 60' no matter what I did. So instead of beating around the bush I'm pretty much upgrading every piece of my stock suspension to BMR cause if you cant get a good 60' your just wasting your time dragracing..
Tires and rims will be next.. :)

What makes the aftermarket LCA's so much better?

-Alex

toomnymods
11-18-2013, 09:21 AM
What makes the aftermarket LCA's so much better?

-Alex

They are adjustable long as u buy the relocation brackets, way better imo. The stockers are paperthin and flex anytime you floor it and they have rubber bushings that give too much. Poly bushings are the way to go for a street car.

Dominic Toretto
11-18-2013, 11:12 AM
They are adjustable long as u buy the relocation brackets, way better imo. The stockers are paperthin and flex anytime you floor it and they have rubber bushings that give too much. Poly bushings are the way to go for a street car.

Why would you need to adjust them if the problem is just that the stock ones are too thin and flex? Wouldn't using a stronger material fix both of those issues?

-Alex

toomnymods
11-18-2013, 12:34 PM
Because once you lower the car the geometry changes and makes traction nearly impossible. Having adjustable suspension allows you to get back the correct geometry.

Dominic Toretto
11-18-2013, 12:39 PM
Because once you lower the car the geometry changes and makes traction nearly impossible. Having adjustable suspension allows you to get back the correct geometry.

Check out my new thread if you don't mind :)

http://dfw50s.com/showthread.php?p=56863#post56863

-Alex

Dominic Toretto
11-19-2013, 02:50 PM
Just got off the phone with Kelly at BMR. Recommends non adjustable LCAs and relocation brackets. Looks like I will be doing some shopping soon :).

-Alex