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BERT
11-01-2013, 11:05 AM
I know the K springs are lower than the P springs but how much lower are the P's to the stockers? Being too low doesn't scare me really but I don't want it ghetto slammed like a had the coupe at one time. Hell, I drug a water bottle down the loop once and was trying to figure out what that noise was lol

Also, if I don't put LCA's on it right away, this won't hurt anything will it? I might do them all at the same time just trying to figure out how much I want to spend.



Sorry for what I am sure is a repost of a thousand times

Grandpa
11-01-2013, 11:15 AM
I know the K springs are lower than the P springs but how much lower are the P's to the stockers? Being too low doesn't scare me really but I don't want it ghetto slammed like a had the coupe at one time. Hell, I drug a water bottle down the loop once and was trying to figure out what that noise was lol

Also, if I don't put LCA's on it right away, this won't hurt anything will it? I might do them all at the same time just trying to figure out how much I want to spend.



Sorry for what I am sure is a repost of a thousand times

I've got my car lowered on Sportlines which is one of the more aggressive drops similar to the K springs. It's also on the stock lower control arms and it's fine. I've got no wheel hop with the drag radials. No clearance issues driving anywhere. I think the people who have issues are the ones who have one of those big snow plow type front splitters.

JDBishopArts
11-01-2013, 11:16 AM
No big deal. What's what this site is for, to help people.

It's not technically going to hurt anything in the short term but it basically renders your LCA's useless. It will make your suspension worse.

I'd highly recommend not lowering your car till you get these things.

LCA's
LCA relocation brackets. (because the angle has to be corrected) These are more important than the LCA's themselves.
Adj Panhard. (when you drop the car the stock panhard is solid and will push the rear out of alignment)
CC plates or Camber bolts. (to correct front camber. Plates are better, bolts will do for short term)

Most people think a UCA is required but I feel that with the 2piece DS the pinion angle isn't that huge of an issue short term. It is def better and highly recommended long term. I plan on switching mine when I swap axles.

Also keep in mind a more aggressive spring is going to be harder on the shocks/struts. My stock ones lasted about 5k miles before one blew.

Grandpa
11-01-2013, 11:27 AM
Which lowers would everyone recommend?

BERT
11-01-2013, 11:40 AM
No big deal. What's what this site is for, to help people.

It's not technically going to hurt anything in the short term but it basically renders your LCA's useless. It will make your suspension worse.

I'd highly recommend not lowering your car till you get these things.

LCA's
LCA relocation brackets. (because the angle has to be corrected) These are more important than the LCA's themselves.
Adj Panhard. (when you drop the car the stock panhard is solid and will push the rear out of alignment)
CC plates or Camber bolts. (to correct front camber. Plates are better, bolts will do for short term)

Most people think a UCA is required but I feel that with the 2piece DS the pinion angle isn't that huge of an issue short term. It is def better and highly recommended long term. I plan on switching mine when I swap axles.

Also keep in mind a more aggressive spring is going to be harder on the shocks/struts. My stock ones lasted about 5k miles before one blew.



That's the plan. I'm not going to lower it without having all the right parts. Except maybe the LCA's at first. Thought about going with the Koni Orange's because I really don't know when I would need to adjust my suspension at all. Without a track close by anymore (damn Hallsville closing down) it will probably only see street action. Now, if I can come across a good deal like 03MachMe posted up, i'll get adjustables obviously.

Here is what I was thinking:
BMR PHB
K or P springs
Koni orange or D-specs
camber bolts
strut mounts

later on BMR lca's and relocation bracket. But which BMR's should I go with? I don't see myself needing adjustables in this area either.

BERT
11-01-2013, 11:41 AM
I've got my car lowered on Sportlines which is one of the more aggressive drops similar to the K springs. It's also on the stock lower control arms and it's fine. I've got no wheel hop with the drag radials. No clearance issues driving anywhere. I think the people who have issues are the ones who have one of those big snow plow type front splitters.



That's good to hear on the no scraping issue.

Dominic Toretto
11-01-2013, 11:41 AM
I went with the P Springs for my drop. I didn't want anything too aggressive. I have not changed the control arms.

-Alex

JDMLOL
11-01-2013, 11:51 AM
I am VERY happy with my set up for now, which is in my sig. Some increased NVH but it is much firmer. Even with my shitty rubber bands I have definitely noticed increased traction. The UCA is mainly for hop and pinion angle issues. I got it for peace of mind. When I had my pinion dialed in I was told it wasnt far off from the recommended angle, even on sportlines.

JDBishopArts
11-01-2013, 11:52 AM
Yeah I didn't go with adj LCA's either. I have BMR pieces and am very happy with them. Quality is great. I like that they are grease-able too.

I'm on H&R race springs and I have to be careful in some areas but for the most part don't have any problems. No speed bump problems. Just have to go slow.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/10078278154_e81d4b8591_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7380/10368648255_c0f7c25466_b.jpg

BERT
11-01-2013, 11:57 AM
Car looks nice

BERT
11-01-2013, 11:59 AM
Next question is, what's the round about price that i'm looking at for getting this stuff installed?

JDBishopArts
11-01-2013, 12:02 PM
Install yourself. It's really really really really really easy.

Wrenching on your own car is enjoyable too.

BERT
11-01-2013, 12:06 PM
Install yourself. It's really really really really really easy.

Wrenching on your own car is enjoyable too.




HA!! It used to be but my grease monkey days are well behind me

JDBishopArts
11-01-2013, 12:33 PM
Lol. Well we can have an install party if you're close to the area.

Grandpa
11-01-2013, 12:40 PM
Lol. Well we can have an install party if you're close to the area.

Sounds like a good time. :)

BERT
11-01-2013, 12:46 PM
Lol. Well we can have an install party if you're close to the area.



LOL, well I can be close to the area if I need to be :D

Since I have no tools, I can supply the beer and food

03MachMe
11-01-2013, 02:54 PM
LOL, well I can be close to the area if I need to be :D

Since I have no tools, I can supply the beer and food

We will be installing my new shocks and struts, my brembos, and maybe some other stuff here in a couple weeks at my place if you want to join. I have all the needed tools and everything for the install.

BERT
11-01-2013, 03:09 PM
We will be installing my new shocks and struts, my brembos, and maybe some other stuff here in a couple weeks at my place if you want to join. I have all the needed tools and everything for the install.




Just let me know when

JDBishopArts
11-01-2013, 05:34 PM
Vorshlag CC plates! ;)

03MachMe
11-01-2013, 05:35 PM
Vorshlag CC plates! ;)

Yep those as well, fix dales fog light, and detail. Sounds more like a weekend than a day lol

Dominic Toretto
11-25-2013, 12:27 PM
Bert, what's the verdict? Did you order all the stuff you wanted to install yet?

-Alex

BERT
11-25-2013, 01:55 PM
Bert, what's the verdict? Did you order all the stuff you wanted to install yet?

-Alex



Doing Ksprings, gt500 mounts, BMR PHB, camber bolts, and D-Specs on the 13th

Dominic Toretto
11-25-2013, 03:27 PM
Doing Ksprings, gt500 mounts, BMR PHB, camber bolts, and D-Specs on the 13th

What's the benefit of swapping to GT500 mounts?

-Alex

BERT
11-25-2013, 05:01 PM
What's the benefit of swapping to GT500 mounts?

-Alex




Been told you have to if you're using struts for '05-'10 models. I don't know why but I don't think they will fit right otherwise. Heard they're better than stock(obviously) but not as good as c/c plates(obviously)

BERT
12-12-2013, 11:15 AM
Update: Getting all my stuff put on tomorrow by Noah (Precision Mustang Performance) and will pick the car up on Saturday.

fordplay
12-13-2013, 09:06 AM
I was all set on the P springs and it said I needed the gt500 mounts also... so I pulled back till I could research that also. I think the K springs are too low and place the wheel too low in the fender well opening... it looks like 2 circles that are off center. .. messes with my head... weird I know right but look at some side profiles..

maxpayne
12-14-2013, 03:07 PM
Any pics Bert?

BERT
12-15-2013, 03:50 PM
No cause it didn't happen

maxpayne
12-15-2013, 04:49 PM
Well shit. My bad man.

BERT
12-15-2013, 06:38 PM
Lol it's ok