View Full Version : New Best in the KB 2012!
Doug1227
10-05-2013, 11:16 PM
Went out to Ennis today for the Camaro/Mustang grudge match. My previous bests in the 1/4 had been an 11.2@125. This week I converted the car to E85. I wasn't sure how much power it picked up because it was dyno'd on a different dyno than before. Using the same pulley, this morning I made my first pass.
1.62 60'
7.118@ 101.22 1/8th
[email protected] 1/4
I was pretty happy with that! Temps were in low 70's. It picked up a true 5mph and .3.
So then the cold front rolls in and temps drop into the high 50's. My next pass was another new best.
1.553 60'
6.804 @ 104.09 1/8th
[email protected] 1/4
DAYUUUMMMM!!!!!
I made one more pass just to back it up and ran:
1.585 60'
[email protected] 1/8th
10.678@ 131.95 1/4
Overall, I'm VERY pleased and can't believe how much faster it ran on the same pulley.
Slow Five-O
10-06-2013, 12:24 AM
Awesome
Grandpa
10-06-2013, 12:31 AM
Daaaamn, that's movin out! for a lil street car! Congrats!
re-rx7
10-06-2013, 09:06 AM
Wow just WOw!
Darkhelmet22
10-06-2013, 09:47 AM
Awesome!! What size tire you got in the back?
Doug1227
10-06-2013, 12:01 PM
275/60-17 MT ET Street Drag Radial
Kaane
10-06-2013, 12:40 PM
I am guessing it's Auto? What converter?
Midnight11
10-06-2013, 12:47 PM
awesome doug!
Yagermeister
10-06-2013, 01:04 PM
Great job Doug!!!
:driver:
Doug1227
10-06-2013, 01:14 PM
Stock
I am guessing it's Auto? What converter?
Doug1227
10-06-2013, 04:13 PM
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Dominic Toretto
10-06-2013, 05:56 PM
Nice :)
-Alex
Rydawg1
10-06-2013, 06:32 PM
nice job man!
Dominic Toretto
10-06-2013, 06:57 PM
Stock
Girl transmission FTW!
-Alex
downtime!
10-06-2013, 07:11 PM
Quick calculator work shows you to be making right at 750 Doug. E85 does work! LOL!
DirtyD
10-06-2013, 08:31 PM
Congrats on the times, Doug! That's awesome!
Doug1227
10-06-2013, 08:40 PM
Flywheel? That'd be about right. Around 630-640 at the wheels would be my guess.
Quick calculator work shows you to be making right at 750 Doug. E85 does work! LOL!
downtime!
10-06-2013, 10:48 PM
Flywheel? That'd be about right. Around 630-640 at the wheels would be my guess.Puts you well ahead of me now. After cleaning up the mess from the other shop, we ended up at 602, but at least I can drive it now. And she was only making 570 when I ran the 10.85, so maybe she'll be a bit faster on the 25th. We have the best track in the country rented, and usually have ridiculous D/A (last time it was -2100), so I'm hoping for a good run or two before I retire her completely.
downtime!
10-06-2013, 10:56 PM
Just for fun, I plugged your numbers into the Dragtimes D/A calculator. You know it's good weather in Texas when the correction factor actually slows you down!
Correct your ET and MPH using the DA (Beta Testing)
Density Altitude: 553 feet above sea level
1/4 mile ET:10.512 seconds
1/4 mile trap speed: 134.47 MPH
Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
10.468 @ 134.987 MPH
Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
10.53 @ 134.427 MPH
Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
10.518 @ 134.405 MPH
Doug1227
10-06-2013, 11:07 PM
I was curious what the DA was....just checked it myself as well. I had no idea it was that low. No wonder The times were so good! I'll probably never duplicate it! Lol!
Dominic Toretto
10-06-2013, 11:32 PM
For some reason I can't find the thread or youtube video but, wasn't there a white NA car that was in the tens with barely any mods accept DRs? Downtime, you remember who that was right?
-Alex
Doug, what wheels are on your car?
Doug1227
10-07-2013, 10:04 AM
Racestars 17/15 for the track
Euro trek UO02's 19x8.5/9.5 for the street
46Tbird
10-07-2013, 10:05 AM
For some reason I can't find the thread or youtube video but, wasn't there a white NA car that was in the tens with barely any mods accept DRs? Downtime, you remember who that was right?
-Alex
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol
There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.
names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here
Dominic Toretto
10-07-2013, 12:40 PM
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol
There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.
names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.
-Alex
downtime!
10-07-2013, 03:22 PM
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.
-AlexCJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.
Dominic Toretto
10-07-2013, 04:46 PM
CJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.
-Alex
DirtyD
10-07-2013, 05:20 PM
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.
-Alex
It's a full bolt-on car with bigs and littles. But with a CJ intake instead of a Boss, and a modified 2005-2010 4.6 Airraid intake.
Yagermeister
10-07-2013, 05:40 PM
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol
There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.
names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here
Spot on 46Tbird.
White one is Boss-powered auto owned by kdanner
Gray one is Coyote-powered auto owned by wbt
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.
-Alex
What you said plus some weight reduction (but with some weight added back in for rollcage and other safety items), e85, longtubes, aluminum d/s, Detroit Locker rearend and Strange axles...on both
CJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.
Doubt their cars are too lean or dangerous (otherwise they wouldn't last long)...and they do drive both cars on the street
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.
-Alex
Quite a bit more than just what was stated but you are correct on no power adder, stock heads/cams...white car does have Boss heads and Boss cams since it is a Boss motor. Gray car is a Coyote so stock heads/cams/internals. It's all in the combo of parts and ESPECIALLY the tune
It's a full bolt-on car with bigs and littles. But with a CJ intake instead of a Boss, and a modified 2005-2010 4.6 Airraid intake.
white car now has a 5" CJ CAI with 123mm MAF
gray car now has a pre-production FRPP CJ street CAI
I now have wbt's 2010 4.6 Airaid intake on my car while I wait for the production version of the FRPP CJ street CAI
DirtyD
10-07-2013, 05:46 PM
Spot on 46Tbird.
White one is Boss-powered auto owned by kdanner
Gray one is Coyote-powered auto owned by wbt
What you said plus some weight reduction (but with some weight added back in for rollcage and other safety items), e85, longtubes, aluminum d/s, Detroit Locker rearend and Strange axles...on both
Doubt their cars are too lean or dangerous (otherwise they wouldn't last long)...and they do drive both cars on the street
Quite a bit more than just what was stated but you are correct on no power adder, stock heads/cams...white car does have Boss heads and Boss cams since it is a Boss motor. Gray car is a Coyote so stock heads/cams/internals. It's all in the combo of parts and ESPECIALLY the tune
white car now has a 5" CJ CAI with 123mm MAF
gray car now has a pre-production FRPP CJ street CAI
I now have wbt's 2010 4.6 Airaid intake on my car while I wait for the production version of the FRPP CJ street CAI
Cool.
So when do you get to head back out to resume your testing?
Here is a pic of the intake FRPP will be shipping soon:
http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu48/wbthurber/2012%20Mustang%20GT/20130929_190816_zpsdef60b3d.jpg (http://s632.photobucket.com/user/wbthurber/media/2012%20Mustang%20GT/20130929_190816_zpsdef60b3d.jpg.html)
kdanner's car has been 10.6's, mine has been 10.8's. Both in non-optimal air conditions.
BTW - the tune is very safe. I use the same tune on the street that I use at the track.
downtime!
10-07-2013, 05:53 PM
BTW - the tune is very safe. I use the same tune on the street that I use at the track.It was just a guess. I know "lean" makes power, and I have erred on the wrong side of caution in the past, just to get a few more ponies out of them.
These new 5.0's just seem to rewrite most of the rules we learned along the way as far as how to tune goes. What worked good on a 2V or a 3V does not translate out well to a new 4V.
Ya'll seem to have a pretty good handle on it though! If I ever do ditch the blower, maybe I can con ya'll into a tune.
It was just a guess. I know "lean" makes power, and I have erred on the wrong side of caution in the past, just to get a few more ponies out of them.
These new 5.0's just seem to rewrite most of the rules we learned along the way as far as how to tune goes. What worked good on a 2V or a 3V does not translate out well to a new 4V.
Ya'll seem to have a pretty good handle on it though! If I ever do ditch the blower, maybe I can con ya'll into a tune.
We do OK. I think there may be a little left in the tune still. Something we will work on over the next couple of months.
I do believe the white car will be in the 10.5-10.4 range very soon. Just need a good track and some good air to get there. Still running a stock Roadrunner setup with a CJ intake. Probably next year sometime a 2013 CJ engine combo (cams, pistons, over bore) will be put together for it and I expect low 10's.
Working on a few things with my car and hope to have it in the 10.6's in the not so distant future.
Yagermeister
10-07-2013, 06:02 PM
Cool.
So when do you get to head back out to resume your testing?
Hopefully this week :)
Dominic Toretto
10-07-2013, 06:47 PM
With respect to the OP we can take this topic to another thread. Doug, great times :)
-Alex
Doug1227
10-08-2013, 09:44 AM
Respect? What's THAT? LOL!
<--like Rodney Dangerfield....lmao
46Tbird
10-08-2013, 09:50 AM
Sorry for the hijack. Congrats on the awesome times Doug, you got that thing rolling pretty good. :mexsmoke:
musclestang89
10-08-2013, 01:12 PM
congrats on your new Doug, you have got it running pretty damn good.
Now those passes are faster than the vert now right?
Doug1227
10-08-2013, 02:00 PM
Yep, that was my goal for this car. Newer, nicer, A/C, inspection, and FASTER than the 'vert. (10.8@127). Mission accomplished! Now, how about some NINES! LOL!
Grandpa
10-08-2013, 02:01 PM
Yep, that was my goal for this car. Newer, nicer, A/C, inspection, and FASTER than the 'vert. (10.8@127). Mission accomplished! Now, how about some NINES! LOL!
Haha! It's a neverending process. Addiction is a mofo! Congrats again, Doug.
Yep, that was my goal for this car. Newer, nicer, A/C, inspection, and FASTER than the 'vert. (10.8@127). Mission accomplished! Now, how about some NINES! LOL!
That would be fun! :)
Doug1227
10-15-2013, 05:57 PM
Just noticed this typo. Tires at the track are those below but 15"s not 17's.
275/60-17 MT ET Street Drag Radial
Dominic Toretto
10-15-2013, 07:54 PM
Just noticed this typo. Tires at the track are those below but 15"s not 17's.
What are you expecting to need in order to get into the 9s?
-Alex
Doug1227
10-16-2013, 06:49 PM
About 750rwhp. I've got the pulley to do it now, and am going to put a fuel system in it soon. HOWEVER, I probably won't go for it until I build the bottom end though. I don't want to wreck this motor before I do the built one. I'm counting on recouping some money by selling it.
Dominic Toretto
10-16-2013, 07:07 PM
About 750rwhp. I've got the pulley to do it now, and am going to put a fuel system in it soon. HOWEVER, I probably won't go for it until I build the bottom end though. I don't want to wreck this motor before I do the built one. I'm counting on recouping some money by selling it.
Looking forward to seeing the progress.
-Alex
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