Recommended Suspension Mods/Brands

[JDBishopArts]

Thought we could use a thread about recommended suspension mods and specific brands.

I experienced my first bad case of wheel hop last night. Enough to make the suspension stuff top of the list.

From what I've read I think I want to go with H&R SS springs, BMR adjustable Panhard and Steeda LCA's with the relo bracket.

[Midnight11]

I had the koni str.ts and steeda sports on my 11. it rode awesome and hooked well

[DirtyD]

I'll be picking up BMR 1/1.25" springs (SP009), J&M adj. aluminum panhard, and BMR LCA relo. brackets.

[46Tbird]

I have Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico D-Spec shocks and struts, GT500 strut mounts, and UPR's chrome-moly adjustable panhard bar and brace. I'm pretty happy with all of it.

It may ride a little stiff for some, but I actually think the OEM suspension is ridiculously soft.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/46Tbird/2012%20GT/IMG121.jpg

[Grandpa]

I wanna rub my weiner all over Danny's car...

[46Tbird]

Don't.....

[DirtyD]

Don't.....
:lol:

[Midnight11]

bahaha

[PIKE5.0]

I wanna rub my weiner all over Danny's car...

I was thinking the same thing.. Great stance!

I've got the gas filler neck reserved for my fun.. Find your own spot Steve

[dallasmike]

I just put BC racing coilovers on my car with whiteline sway bars. The ride is fantastic and the handling is superb. Need to do a panhard bar and LCA's next as the rear end is still a bit sloppy.

[DirtyD]

I just put BC racing coilovers on my car with whiteline sway bars. The ride is fantastic and the handling is superb. Need to do a panhard bar and LCA's next as the rear end is still a bit sloppy.

If I win the lottery, or at least a couple grand in a scratch off, I'm getting coilovers. :drool:

[Toby]

Steeda ultra lites, koni yellows, adjustable panhard bar, lower control arms

With all of this, you should have 0 issues with traction given you are on a good tire.

Remember, that ANY time you lower a new mustang 05+ it is NECESSARY to purchase an adjustable panhard bar, or you will have traction, alignment, and driving issues. Without the adjustable bar, the rear end will not be centered in the car thus causing multiple issues.

[Phuck Phace]

X2 on the Koni yellows, they are great also check out the Fays2 Watts link instead of an adjustable panhard bar. Is good shit.

[Midnight11]

Steeda ultra lites, koni yellows, adjustable panhard bar, lower control arms

With all of this, you should have 0 issues with traction given you are on a good tire.

Remember, that ANY time you lower a new mustang 05+ it is NECESSARY to purchase an adjustable panhard bar, or you will have traction, alignment, and driving issues. Without the adjustable bar, the rear end will not be centered in the car thus causing multiple issues.

I ran without for a bit with no issues

[Toby]

I ran without for a bit with no issues

You can, but I would not recommend it. The shop we use for alignments will not align them if the rear is not centered. The same goes for lowering a car but using the stock shocks. You can, but there will be a huge difference in performance and overall driveability once a properly valved shock is added into the mixture.

[Midnight11]

Yea well I couldn't tell you how it rode after. We put the Panhard bar and sway bar on then it got totaled testing it out 10 mins later lol

[kanetrain]

Can't go wrong with coilovers, panhard bar of course, and rear LCAs. Rides awesome.

[Toby]

Yea well I couldn't tell you how it rode after. We put the Panhard bar and sway bar on then it got totaled testing it out 10 mins later lol

ouch that sucks! Sway bars make a huge difference on these cars!

[dallasmike]

If I win the lottery, or at least a couple grand in a scratch off, I'm getting coilovers. :drool:


I think you'd be surprised what I can do on a set of coilovers price wise.

[Midnight11]

^which is? lol :D

[dallasmike]

PM me for the price.

[89gt-stanger]

After putting exhaust on, got soe bad wheel hop. Put on BMR's LCA's and relocation brackets on the middle hole. Almost none there after, and when the car shifts (auto) it hooks right up. Best suspension mod thus far.

Dylan

[Luke]

After putting exhaust on, got soe bad wheel hop. Put on BMR's LCA's and relocation brackets on the middle hole. Almost none there after, and when the car shifts (auto) it hooks right up. Best suspension mod thus far.

Dylan

Is your car lowered?

[Eaglei532]

I would say that there are two main causes of wheel hop on the newer GTs, but since none of you have worn out bushings yet, tires may be the culprit.

[46Tbird]

The reason there is a lot of wheel hop on new GTs is because the lower control arms are flimsy pieces of shit. Planting the tires causes them to bend upward, reach the limit, and snap back straight, over and over... aka wheel hop. The Brembo cars have GT500 LCAs, which are better, but even then some people have serious wheelhop with them (I never have). Swapping LCAs is just about the best thing you can do on an S197 Mustang.

[DirtyD]

I'll eventually upgrade to some, but not until I go fatter meat out back. For now, I'm going to get a Freedom Racing Aluminum Adj. PHB from Jay @ Hypermotive and then some BMR springs.

[Fair]

Howdy everyone - just found out about this forum today. Since I own a suspension shop here in DFW I figured I would post up in this thread. :)

I don't know much about the whole stance thing, and we don't sell Chinese coilovers, but I do know how to make an S197 Mustang handle on track or in an autocross, and still ride well on the street. :)

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/2012-SCCA-Solo-Nats/i-BhB4kJr/0/S/DSC_4613-3-S.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/Global-Time-Attack-TMS-092112/i-wft8RQ2/0/S/_DSC0251%20copy%203-S.jpg

Come to think of it... I'm pretty sure we have the quickest road course or autocross S197 Mustang in all of Texas at the moment? I could be wrong - if there is a properly sorted AIX S197 in Texas I suspect it should be faster. My 2011 GT puts 3+ seconds a lap on the fastest American Iron racers, and it isn't a gutted, no-compromises race car - it is a street car that is emissions legal, has A/C, and is anything but light (3750 with driver). My wife daily drives it to work, but for race weekends we bolt on race wheels/tires and rear aero and race it in autocross or NASA Time Trials, among other events (Optima Challenge, Global Time Attack, TX2K, etc).

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-new-Shop-Build-up/i-2qdNFHM/0/S/DSC_8256-S.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Service/Exhaust-Systems/i-m69Txfk/0/S/DSC_5302-S.jpg

Vorshlag has a shop in Plano and we do some service and fabrication work on various late model chassis, including the S197 Mustang. We make our own camber/caster plates, plus we sell and stock Whiteline bushings/control arms/swaybars/watts, Powerflex bushings, Energy Suspension bushings, and AST and Moton coilovers. We made our own lightweight 18x10" wheels for the S197 and can order custom wheels from Forgestar up to 18x12" wide (which is what we use on our 2011 GT).

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-new-Shop-Build-up/i-rFvtLwQ/0/M/resize2jpgUntitled_Panorama1%20copy-M.jpg

Come out to the Five Star Ford track event November 17th at Eagles Canyon Raceway (sign up here (https://www.facebook.com/events/408247952558385/)) and see for yourself. I'm pretty sure they will let us take riders, and if so, the right seat will be available all day.

[DirtyD]

Welcome guys! In the next year or so, praying that everything goes well after my most recent strut fiasco, I hope to be putting coilovers on my car, and I might be paying y'all a visit. :D

[jayman33]

I took off my roush/ kw coilovers, eibach sways and BBR LCA and installed whiteline sways, LCA and relo brackets along with Koni yellows, hotchkis springs and steeda camber strut mounts. Ill actually be going with the vorshlag cc plates later on due to steeda's limited adjustability. Next suspension mod is the whiteline watts link then that will be it until i find my next set of coilovers when i decide to track the car and when that happens ill be removing the whipple for a full livernois high revving longblock.

Drove the car for the first time today after swapping the suspension and replacing the entire exhaust, put on the SW headers with O/R xpipe and the magnaflow stainless street catback to keep the car relatively quiet. So far im pleased, the exhaust is actually quieter than my o/r x and bassani setup but i finally have zero drone and i love the SW exotic sound. The suspension is a little soft but the konis were on their softest setting and with the softer hotchkis springs was just a bit much. Ill dial it in a little more tomorrow, good thing i have VIR next weekend. Picking up a set of ADV1 forged wheels for the track and ill see how those hold up.

[jayman33]

Fair, im a big fan of you guys. You guys heading up to NC anytime soon?

[5PointSlow]

We need vids of the new exhaust jay!


Now that I have my fueling sorted out for a while my next mods will be suspension and exterior. I want to go tokico d specs, new LCAs and UCA, maybe new springs. I want the car set up more so for autox and handling than straight line performance.

[pohnjarker]

i want a setup for straight line peformance...what do i need?

I currently have BMR LCA/relocation bracket, UCA/heavy duty bracket, and Che adjustable panhard bar.

the Che will be replaced when i go with a whiteline watts link and i'll check out Vorshlag's CC plate.

all i think of is shocks/struts and springs or coilovers and a bumpsteer kit. what would be best for straight line performance?

[Midnight11]

koni struts and steeda sport springs

[jayman33]

i want a setup for straight line peformance...what do i need?

I currently have BMR LCA/relocation bracket, UCA/heavy duty bracket, and Che adjustable panhard bar.

the Che will be replaced when i go with a whiteline watts link and i'll check out Vorshlag's CC plate.

all i think of is shocks/struts and springs or coilovers and a bumpsteer kit. what would be best for straight line performance?

Just out of curiousity, if you want straight line performance why go with the watts link or are you looking for a combination of straight, street and potentially road course performance?
Koni's are a great shock/ strut combo and having them paired with either, BMR, Hotchkis or steeda. Check out ground control's cc plates with the Vorshlag's they're both very well designed pieces.

Let me know if I can help put something together for ya.

[TrueStreetMotorSports.com]

Howdy everyone - just found out about this forum today. Since I own a suspension shop here in DFW I figured I would post up in this thread. :)

I don't know much about the whole stance thing, and we don't sell Chinese coilovers, but I do know how to make an S197 Mustang handle on track or in an autocross, and still ride well on the street. :)

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/2012-SCCA-Solo-Nats/i-BhB4kJr/0/S/DSC_4613-3-S.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/Global-Time-Attack-TMS-092112/i-wft8RQ2/0/S/_DSC0251%20copy%203-S.jpg

Come to think of it... I'm pretty sure we have the quickest road course or autocross S197 Mustang in all of Texas at the moment? I could be wrong - if there is a properly sorted AIX S197 in Texas I suspect it should be faster. My 2011 GT puts 3+ seconds a lap on the fastest American Iron racers, and it isn't a gutted, no-compromises race car - it is a street car that is emissions legal, has A/C, and is anything but light (3750 with driver). My wife daily drives it to work, but for race weekends we bolt on race wheels/tires and rear aero and race it in autocross or NASA Time Trials, among other events (Optima Challenge, Global Time Attack, TX2K, etc).

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-new-Shop-Build-up/i-2qdNFHM/0/S/DSC_8256-S.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Service/Exhaust-Systems/i-m69Txfk/0/S/DSC_5302-S.jpg

Vorshlag has a shop in Plano and we do some service and fabrication work on various late model chassis, including the S197 Mustang. We make our own camber/caster plates, plus we sell and stock Whiteline bushings/control arms/swaybars/watts, Powerflex bushings, Energy Suspension bushings, and AST and Moton coilovers. We made our own lightweight 18x10" wheels for the S197 and can order custom wheels from Forgestar up to 18x12" wide (which is what we use on our 2011 GT).

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-new-Shop-Build-up/i-rFvtLwQ/0/M/resize2jpgUntitled_Panorama1%20copy-M.jpg

Come out to the Five Star Ford track event November 17th at Eagles Canyon Raceway (sign up here (https://www.facebook.com/events/408247952558385/)) and see for yourself. I'm pretty sure they will let us take riders, and if so, the right seat will be available all day.

Welcome Terry, Glad you guys made it over here :High 5:

[pohnjarker]

Just out of curiousity, if you want straight line performance why go with the watts link or are you looking for a combination of straight, street and potentially road course performance?
Koni's are a great shock/ strut combo and having them paired with either, BMR, Hotchkis or steeda. Check out ground control's cc plates with the Vorshlag's they're both very well designed pieces.

Let me know if I can help put something together for ya.

I want something i can run at the track on occasion, but ill mainly be running around on the streets so im wanting all around performance. I doubt i'll do any road racing but im not ruling it out.

[jayman33]

For your goals I think the watts link is unecessary but if you want to get one I highly suggest Whiteline's. I really like the Koni yellows and what they offer for adjustment and performance. I really like the Vorshlag CC plates as well as Ground Control's both are pretty damn nice.

[pohnjarker]

yea, i hear ya...the good thing about goals is they are always changing.

i have been looking at the Koni yellows with some eibach or steeda sports, not sure yet.

i'll be out here for another year total so i have plenty of time to save up and build something nice piece by piece.

ETA: apparently my work internet blocks your website for no apparent reason. i'll have to check it out when i get home.

[Luke]

yea, i hear ya...the good thing about goals is they are always changing.

i have been looking at the Koni yellows with some eibach or steeda sports, not sure yet.

i'll be out here for another year total so i have plenty of time to save up and build something nice piece by piece.

ETA: apparently my work internet blocks your website for no apparent reason. i'll have to check it out when i get home.

I'm not too far away (Taji, Iraq) and in similar situation, plenty of time to pick out the right parts.

I noticed all the love for the tokico and koni's, is the old stuff like strange and qa1 just junk now or what? I know the strange adjustables are pretty cheap, just haven't seen many reviews on 11+ cars.

[jpgraham65]

Just installed koni str.ts and steeda sports with gt500 mounts and camber bolts on my 2012 Brembo GT. Wheel hop is completely gone, car feels much more planted upon acceleration and through turns. Ride is a bit stiffer, but I love the look.

[jayman33]

yea, i hear ya...the good thing about goals is they are always changing.

i have been looking at the Koni yellows with some eibach or steeda sports, not sure yet.

i'll be out here for another year total so i have plenty of time to save up and build something nice piece by piece.

ETA: apparently my work internet blocks your website for no apparent reason. i'll have to check it out when i get home.

Yeah, its a relatively new site so I'm surprised its blocked. It does say shop. when going into the store so thats probably why. If you need anything or want prices just send me a pm and I'll hook my military brother up.