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Dominic Toretto
08-29-2013, 07:15 PM
I plan on keeping my car untuned and thus, stock power-wise, until the warranty expires. This car is my daily and I don't care for a tone of mods right now. It's more than enough fun as is. So with that being said, I would like to add an intake to compliment my axle-back and wondering what versions do you all recommend for a non-tuned car. Thanks in advance :)

-Alex
ochoblanco
08-29-2013, 07:28 PM
Air raid is pretty nice. Has an insert to stay untuned. Relive the insert and tune it when you want later on.
Dominic Toretto
08-29-2013, 07:44 PM
Air raid is pretty nice. Has an insert to stay untuned. Relive the insert and tune it when you want later on.

Cool, thanks man.

-Alex
DirtyD
08-29-2013, 09:27 PM
Get the air raid.
Dan12GT
08-30-2013, 06:23 PM
I have the Airaid CAI. Love it. i'll be removing the insert later one when I do my cat deletes and tune it.
JDBishopArts
08-30-2013, 07:12 PM
Keep the stock box.
Midnight11
08-30-2013, 07:38 PM
doing a non tuned intake is pointless
BLK2012GT
08-30-2013, 08:55 PM
Keep the stock box
ochoblanco
08-30-2013, 09:33 PM
doing a non tuned intake is pointless

Unless it can easily convert to a tune required version...
Rebelracer568
08-30-2013, 09:53 PM
Stock air box or a c&l with insert.
re-rx7
08-30-2013, 10:21 PM
Keep the stock box.

doing a non tuned intake is pointless

Keep the stock box

All these answers are correct.
Pepperinyoureye
08-30-2013, 10:38 PM
doing a non tuned intake is pointless

Truth. Ran a K&N carbon fiber closed box with no tune for a while and there is no gain whatsoever. All the gains are in the tune.
Dominic Toretto
08-30-2013, 10:59 PM
Not necessarily looking for a gain in horsepower but, wouldn't an aftermarket intake breathe better than stock regardless if there is a tune?

-Alex
JDMLOL
08-30-2013, 11:01 PM
Not necessarily looking for a gain in horsepower but, wouldn't an aftermarket intake breathe better than stock regardless if there is a tune?

-Alex

If it didn't yield better power how could it be breathing any better?
DirtyD
08-30-2013, 11:04 PM
Only purchase an intake that can be used at both tuned and non-tuned. Only way to do it. Either the C&L or airraid.

I too ran a K&N, and ditched it because it was useless with a tune, and maybe have me a few ponies up top because I did feel the upper RPMs were a little more potent.
Dominic Toretto
08-30-2013, 11:14 PM
If it didn't yield better power how could it be breathing any better?

Simply increasing the amount of air the engine is taking in won't increase the power. To increase power you have to maximize the efficiency of the air AND the fuel. You do that by tuning. Also you can have a car that makes a ton of power and it be with a crappy tune. Reference downtime!s recent thread.

-Alex
JDMLOL
08-30-2013, 11:17 PM
Simply increasing the amount of air the engine is taking in won't increase the power. To increase power you have to maximize the efficiency of the air AND the fuel. You do that by tuning. Also you can have a car that makes a ton of power and it be with a crappy tune. Reference downtime!s recent thread.

-Alex

I thought more air being moved meant better power?
Dominic Toretto
08-30-2013, 11:43 PM
I thought more air being moved meant better power?

If you're compensating with the proportionate amount of fuel and spark to combust it all efficiently then yes. Otherwise running too much air(lean) or fuel(rich) can be detrimental.

-Alex
Pepperinyoureye
09-01-2013, 08:56 AM
Not to mention the factory intake with a K&N filter is going to do about the same as an aftermarket intake... It's a pretty damn good air box for being OEM.
GunsUp
09-01-2013, 01:00 PM
Keep the stock box
re-rx7
09-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Not to mention the factory intake with a K&N filter is going to do about the same as an aftermarket intake... It's a pretty damn good air box for being OEM.The only problem on the factory intake is not the box. Its the silence box and the diameter in the tube.

Keep the stock box

Depends.
JDBishopArts
09-01-2013, 02:27 PM
Keep stock box till you want to go with a tune. Just do it.
wbt
09-01-2013, 03:45 PM
The only problem on the factory intake is not the box. Its the silence box and the diameter in the tube.



Depends.

We did back-to-back testing at the track between the JLT and stock airbox using the same tune sans the MAF transfer function. The difference in times:

.06

That falls within the margin of error. There are no real performance gains to be had running an aftermarket CAI. Run one for looks/sound only.
Dominic Toretto
09-01-2013, 06:07 PM
We did back-to-back testing at the track between the JLT and stock airbox using the same tune sans the MAF transfer function. The difference in times:

.06

That falls within the margin of error. There are no real performance gains to be had running an aftermarket CAI. Run one for looks/sound only.

So then an aftermarket CAI has no better effect on the engine's potential cfm as the stock intake?

-Alex
wbt
09-01-2013, 06:21 PM
So then an aftermarket CAI has no better effect on the engine's potential cfm as the stock intake?

-Alex

The stock CAI flows enough air that it isn't a restriction. Ford did their homework.
Dominic Toretto
09-01-2013, 07:00 PM
The stock CAI flows enough air that it isn't a restriction. Ford did their homework.

Very impressive! Thanks.

-Alex