Who has a watt's link installed?

[saunupe1911]

Who has a watt's link installed? I'm thinking this is my next mod. I need better cornering stability, especially on the tollway. Does it keep the axle more planted like they say. Hopefully it eliminates the corner hop/see saw action altogether. I also read Steeda's new rear X brace helps with this as well.

[jayman33]

The watts link completely changed the rear end of the Boss. The typical issue when going over uneven roads and bumps are now taken care of however, I would advise getting a front sway bar, with the ass end completely planted you'll turn your car into a snow plow. Meaning that your car won't turn and will keep wanting to go straight. I wasn't a "believer" until I put one on the car.

[JDBishopArts]

I want a watts link :(

[saunupe1911]

Good to know Jayman. I'm stacking my chips now for that watts link. It will probably be late fall before I make a move. It will defintely be a Christmas gift.

[Phuck Phace]

I run the Fays 2. It's cool I guess.

[ochoblanco]

Had watts link on my 07...wheel hop gone...but like Jason said I had to get an aftermarket front sway bar to help with turning as it dug in HARD!

[saunupe1911]

what sway bars did you guys go with...BMR..Whiteline? I'm trying to plan everything ahead of time.

[saunupe1911]

I might grab the sway bar now and just sit on it.

[Phuck Phace]

I run the Eibach sways.

[JDBishopArts]

I run Eibachs too and love them.

[ochoblanco]

what sway bars did you guys go with...BMR..Whiteline? I'm trying to plan everything ahead of time.

I used the BMR and was pleased with it. I have heard good things about the Eibach as well.

[saunupe1911]

Cool, I'm leaning towards the Eibach sway bars to match my Pro Kits. I'm glad to hear the Whiteline watt's link works very well. I was a little concerned about them based upon that UCA incident.

Anybody have any input on the Fays 2 watts link? It's a different design and is much cheaper.

Is one design better than the other? I beleive I read somewhere that the Steeda and WhiteLine "on-axle" watt's link designs don't meet SCCA regulations or something like.

[jayman33]

Cool, I'm leaning towards the Eibach sway bars to match my Pro Kits. I'm glad to hear the Whiteline watt's link works very well. I was a little concerned about them based upon that UCA incident.

Anybody have any input on the Fays 2 watts link? It's a different design and is much cheaper.

Is one design better than the other? I beleive I read somewhere that the Steeda and WhiteLine "on-axle" watt's link designs don't meet SCCA regulations or something like.

Sway bars are the last mod for this car, if anything upgrade the front. Most importantly you would need to upgrade your dampers to properly support the springs, if you haven't upgraded those yet.

[Phuck Phace]

Anybody have any input on the Fays 2 watts link? It's a different design and is much cheaper.


Yeah, it's fuckin awesome.

[jayman33]

Yeah, it's fuckin awesome.

Lol, you've always had a way with words.

[JPC]

Who has a watt's link installed? I'm thinking this is my next mod. I need better cornering stability, especially on the tollway. Does it keep the axle more planted like they say. Hopefully it eliminates the corner hop/see saw action altogether. I also read Steeda's new rear X brace helps with this as well.

I have the Whiteline Watts Link on my 2012 Boss 302.
the difference is pretty dramatic

I'm co-organizing and instructing at Five Star Ford Track Day on Sat Sept 7th
https://www.facebook.com/events/539172632784999/
come out and bring a helmet for a test ride
...or sign up for some REAL fun :-)

you can also email directly @ [email protected]

[Fair]

We've installed a lot of the Whiteline Watts Links (http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info.php?cPath=141_142_179&products_id=526), and in fact tested some of the first production units. We've put them on street cars, autocross cars, track cars, and everything in between.


http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Product-Pictures/Whiteline-Suspension/i-5RtV5Qs/0/Th/DSC1989-copy-M.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Product-Pictures/Whiteline-Suspension/i-WWX5DD8/0/Th/DSC2000-M.jpg http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Product-Pictures/Whiteline-Suspension/i-pGdg8Wx/0/Th/DSC2002-M.jpg (http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info.php?cPath=141_142_179&products_id=526)

The Whiteline unit shown above is a work of art. It comes with a new diff cover (which has several side benefits of its own), elastomer bushings (not metal spherical bearings), and an adjustable Roll Center.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/SCCA-Crandall-072813/i-Mz2bTZt/0/M/SCCA-072813-STU-Fair-run5-wheelcam-M.jpg (http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/SCCA-Crandall-072813/30799281_2z8QJb#!i=2664718105&k=Mz2bTZt&lb=1&s=A)
Click above for the "wheel cam" video to see axle movement on street tires
in an autocross. Note: This car had an aftermarket tubular BMR Panhard Bar.

Why Is A Watt's Better? (http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57373#post57373)

These keep your car's axle from moving around like mad under lateral loads, lower the rear roll center, and give you a linear axle movement under suspension bump travel. There is a lot of benefit from a Watts Link over a PHB set-up, which I detailed in this post (http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57373#post57373), but they have one downside - cost.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-j4gmHrL/0/M/_DSC4136-M.jpg (http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-j4gmHrL/0/XL/_DSC4136-XL.jpg)

Sure, there are more things to adjust, too, but it really isn't adjusted much once you get the roll center height and lateral location of the axle set. Not every shop understands that, of course, and we have actually fixed installs done at other places. But it isn't hard.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/NASA-Hallett-062213/i-HmV2xpJ/0/M/_DSC_8552-M.jpg

Will it cure axle hop? Dandruff, gout or male pattern baldness? I don't know about all of that. I just know that I have street driven, autocrossed, and tracked with the WL Watts on several cars and they were easier to drive, dead quiet in use, had faster transitions/slaloms, and showed much less lateral axle/tire movement than with a PHB. We've beat on our 2011 GT with a WL Watts for over a year, using 295mm street tires and up to 345mm width Hoosier A6 race tires for a year and it has been great.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-Events/2012-SCCA-Solo-Nats/i-BhB4kJr/0/M/DSC_4613-3-M.jpg

[saunupe1911]

Great info. I may have to go for a ride on the 7th. This is definitely my next mod.

[Fair]

Great info. I may have to go for a ride on the 7th. This is definitely my next mod.

While we are almost always at the Five Star Ford ECR events... we'll be racing all week at Miller Motorsports Park that day running in the NASA National Championships.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-BtCbpKf/1/S/_DSC0869-S.jpg (http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-BtCbpKf/1/XL/_DSC0869-XL.jpg) http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-szw7DC7/1/S/_DSC1028-S.jpg (http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/Vorshlag-2011-Mustang-GT-build/i-szw7DC7/1/XL/_DSC1028-XL.jpg)

We're thrashing all week here to get some mods finished before heading up and seeing how we stack up to the best of the best. :sad72: Gonna try to sneak out to ECR this weekend and test...

[JPC]

Great info. I may have to go for a ride on the 7th. This is definitely my next mod.

I should be at ECR pretty early since I'm running the drivers meetings IE 8am

txt me @ 972-838-7768

bring a helmet!!!

Jerry Cecco

[saunupe1911]

I'll be there if nothing super important comes up. I got a SNELL/DOT HJC ready to go.