SH&*'s about to get real!

[Doug1227]

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-drivetrain-389/924789-kenne-belle-2-8-mammoth-more-feeler.html

[Grandpa]

Congrats Doug! That thing will be a blast to drive. I'd love to check it out when you get it done.

[Phuck Phace]

Oh hell yeah.

[Doug1227]

I got the TB and ID1000's from him as well.

[Bearded Banger]

Schweeet!

[BLK2012GT]

Damn nice Doug.

[Luke]

Nice, you installing it yourself?

[Doug1227]

Yeah, I'll install it myself, then have it tuned locally.

[blownaltered]

You got a built motor in that thing yet?

[Doug1227]

No..... should I?

[03MachMe]

as long as you keep it on fairly low boost, around 600rwhp you should be ok

[blownaltered]

as long as you keep it on fairly low boost, around 600rwhp you should be ok

x2

I've seen more than one guy blow the motor around 700. The rods are weak in those motors.

[Doug1227]

I'm not looking for any more than 650/550. LOL @ those weak rods ONLY handling 700 @ the wheels! Man we're spoiled..... BTW, it's got the stock 4-1/8" pulley and a Mammoth TB! LOL!

[Grandpa]

x2

I've seen more than one guy blow the motor around 700. The rods are weak in those motors.

No they aren't. Quit reading that bullshit on SVTP with all those Terminator crybabies. You're drinking too much Kool-aid.

I'm not looking for any more than 650/550. LOL @ those weak rods ONLY handling 700 @ the wheels! Man we're spoiled..... BTW, it's got the stock 4-1/8" pulley and a Mammoth TB! LOL!

Exactly..only. Try that in a junky old stock blocked fox and see what happens. lmao.

[blownaltered]

No they aren't. Quit reading that bullshit on SVTP with all those Terminator crybabies. You're drinking too much Kool-aid.



Exactly..only. Try that in a junky old stock blocked fox and see what happens. lmao.

Oh here we go again. I forgot the coyote motor is the ls1 of ford. Did god touch this one as well. There are more than one coyote on this board alone that has blown up or bent a rod. The rods are weak and you have crap pistons, the blocks are strong but that's it. It's not a built motor so lets stop acting like they are.

[Doug1227]

No one's arguing with your comment other than to say that rods that handle 700rwhp aren't really "weak"....perhaps weaker than a billet rod or even an aftermarket hbeam or something... but in the big scheme of things, WEAK is a relative term, right? The blocks aren't strong either....they push into the water jacket at ONLY 1000rwhp.

[Grandpa]

Oh here we go again. I forgot the coyote motor is the ls1 of ford. Did god touch this one as well. There are more than one coyote on this board alone that has blown up or bent a rod. The rods are weak and you have crap pistons, the blocks are strong but that's it. It's not a built motor so lets stop acting like they are.

You're such a hater. Have NO clue what you are talking about.


There are TONS of Coyotes running around with thousands of miles on them making between 600 and 700rw on the stock rods and pistons safely. Try making that with YOUR shortblock. Ain't going happen because yours is on borrowed time at 475rw and above and limited to 5500rpms. Harmonics murder the fox motors.

What you clearly are unaware of is the tuners out there doing battle with eachother for business. There are TWO tuners who had an inside person at Ford that was sharing data with them that were able to get tunes out there that ran great. Then there was some of the other tuners who were trying to copy what they were doing without all of the data and blowing #8s and NOT because they are weak, but something in the tune. Then a "fix" was put out and the #8 thing has nearly gone completely away except for those guys at Bama who can't get it right and continue to blow up shit.

In this hobby, shit is going to break. It's just going to happen when you are attempting to make engines designed to perform beyond how the factory meant them too. But just hating on them because you are reading the same regurgitated BS from other people who clearly don't know what they are talking about is lame. The new tech available to us is awesome not taking advantage of it is just ignorance.

You know I loved my foxes (I had over a dozen them for crying outloud), but now there is better stuff out there that makes more power easier, more reliably and efficiently.

[merlinmol]

Grat's on the new blower

[Doug1227]

Thanks....back on subject...:)

[blownaltered]

Thanks....back on subject...:)

No we like bitching like old women in here. :p

[pohnjarker]

Did god touch this one as well.

by the hammer of Thor :flipthebird:

[Dark Pony]

The connecting rods are pretty good man. They are a SHIT load better than the ones that came in the 3V's...the piston are def the weak point. For sure, it's def not a built motor, but it's damn good for a stock motor in a $30k car.

[ProCharge5.0]

Sweet!! Can't wait to see it when you are done

[Luke]

While Steve is a little off in that novel of a post, I look forward to seeing what kind of numbers/times this thing will make. Oh, and lethal is having a driveshaft sale, might be a good time to invest in one.

[Doug1227]

I had the seller throw in his Aeroforce for a couple of bucks more...woot! I'll have it in my hands tomorrow. I had a friend pick it up for me on his way back to Dallas from Austin. Now I can stare at it until I find time to install! LOL!

[Grandpa]

I had the seller throw in his Aeroforce for a couple of bucks more...woot! I'll have it in my hands tomorrow. I had a friend pick it up for me on his way back to Dallas from Austin. Now I can stare at it until I find time to install! LOL!

I bet you'll make some time for that kinda fun!

[Doug1227]

I probably will. I've got to coordinate a weekend I can thrash on it fairly uninterrupted (read:KIDS!) and maybe stretch a weekend with a Friday/Monday or something so I can not be too stressed AND get it tuned before going back to work.

[Doug1227]

I've been picking up a few extra items in preparation of the install. I sold the ID1000's and picked up some FRPP 80's and a 40A BAP per Manny's recommendations. I bought an Aeroforce gauage and ordered a Roush vent bezel and 3.5bar MAP sensor so I can monitor A/F and Boost with one gauge. Gonna order a couple of extra pulleys from KB so I can play with boost on the dyno. I have a dyno appointment on 5/6/13 to get it tuned. I plan on installing it the weekend before that.

[STROKD]

Sounds bad ass man, can't wait to see it done!

[pohnjarker]

sweet, looking forward to seeing it at TS dyno day

i have the MAP sensor as well, let me know how the install goes.

[Phuck Phace]

I sold the ID1000's and picked up some FRPP 80's and a 40A BAP per Manny's recommendations.

For real?

[Grandpa]

For real?

Yeah, I'm kinda shocked at that as well. On the tuner site, some tuners seem to prefer tuning the 80's versus going through the extra lil work for the 1000's. Personally there is no way I would trade the 80's for the 1000's.

[downtime!]

Yeah, I'm kinda shocked at that as well. On the tuner site, some tuners seem to prefer tuning the 80's versus going through the extra lil work for the 1000's. Personally there is no way I would trade the 80's for the 1000's.The 80's, with the BAP, are more than enough for what he'll be making, and Manny is more comfortable with the 80's.

[Grandpa]

The 80's, with the BAP, are more than enough for what he'll be making, and Manny is more comfortable with the 80's.

Sure, they will work for now. Until a built motor comes into play and more boost. Then will have to buy injectors a second time. I hate re-buying parts and wasting money, but I guess that's just me.

[downtime!]

Sure, they will work for now. Until a built motor comes into play and more boost. Then will have to buy injectors a second time. I hate re-buying parts and wasting money, but I guess that's just me.How much do you think 80's will support? You seem to be grossly underestimating them. At 650, mine aren't even breathing hard. Lots of headroom on these to grow with. If you're heading North of 800, you'll need to switch them out, but that's not going to happen on my car. Not sure what Dougs' plans are.

[Doug1227]

By selling the ID1000's, I was able to pay for brand new 80's and a 1-week old KB 40A BAP and still have $200 leftover which paid for my Aeroforce and 3.5bar MAP sensor. By doing so, I also switched to an injector that the person tuning my car prefers and has already developed multiple tunes for. He'll be burning me a "limp it to the shop" tune that will allow me to drive the car to the dyno to be tuned. Manny said he thought the 80's would be fine for a while and they're what he was running when he ran into the 9's with his 3.6L. That should do me for a while! :)

[Doug1227]

Just called KB and picked up a 3-7/8" pulley and a 3-3/4" pulley. That way I can make sure we get it to the power level I'm looking for while on the dyno.

[46Tbird]

Yeah, getting into the 9s is probably plenty. At that point you'll have enough other shit to fix/replace before injectors to go 8s. lmao

[Doug1227]

LOL... I'm looking for 10.80's or better... that's it. IOW, as fast as the turbo fox, in a newer, nicer car with AC! :)

[downtime!]

LOL... I'm looking for 10.80's or better... that's it. IOW, as fast as the turbo fox, in a newer, nicer car with AC! :)I should have solid numbers about the time you get the car back from Manny, but I'm expecting 10.60's. We'll see.

[Doug1227]

I think my goal of 10.80 is VERY conservative. Yours will depend on those shifts!

[Doug1227]

Hey, what plugs and what gap did Manny tell you to get?

I should have solid numbers about the time you get the car back from Manny, but I'm expecting 10.60's. We'll see.

[downtime!]

Hey, what plugs and what gap did Manny tell you to get?I'm still a little concerned about the plugs. The KB site says, in big red letters, DO NOT USE BRISK PLUGS WITH OUR BLOWERS, and what does Manny recommend (and install)? Brisk, of course. He runs them in his car too. As to gap, couldn't tell you, they did all the work. Mine will be back up at HPP tomorrow for some more goodies and tuning, I'll see if I can find out the gap then.

[CMORENO302]

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[Doug1227]

I did a little research last night and I think I'm gonna go with the NGK LTR7IX-11's which are the iridium one step colder than stock. Gapped around .032.

I'm still a little concerned about the plugs. The KB site says, in big red letters, DO NOT USE BRISK PLUGS WITH OUR BLOWERS, and what does Manny recommend (and install)? Brisk, of course. He runs them in his car too. As to gap, couldn't tell you, they did all the work. Mine will be back up at HPP tomorrow for some more goodies and tuning, I'll see if I can find out the gap then.